SIMPLY NOT THE BEST AND DEFINITELY NOT BETTER THAN ANYONE, ANYONE I'VE MET.$500,000 fine not empathy!
THE TELEGRAPH: NRL last night fined the Bulldogs $500,000 for bringing the game into disrepute over the Coffs Harbour sex affair.
SEX AFFAIR? HOW ABOUT GANG RAPE!
It came less than 24 hours after police declined to lay charges against players over sexual assault allegations made by a young woman in the seaside resort town on February 22.
GKCNN: Diversionary tactics by the NRL and do you really think 500,000 will put pressure on the Bulldogs? I don't think so!
TELEGRAPH: The NRL imposed an immediate penalty of $150,000, with $350,000 suspended, provided the club and the players face no serious off-field misconduct issues before the end of 2006.
GKCNN: But to be charged or not to be charged in a court of law that is the question for column "A".
To be found guilty or not guilty that is the question for column "B"
Why?
In the grand scheme of things take this scenario and present it to police, who have and obligation to report crime to the court.
Bulldogs: Breaking the news gently
No problem identifying her demeanour as a rape victim after the event? No problem expecting that identifying the offenders may have been difficult at the time? No problem doing a swab and finding out what DNA entered her body? No problem looking at the marks on her body where she was bruised or cut? But a problem with the accounts of others that say the victim's story just doesn't add up?
Just add that to the melting pot!
If I may add to the above scenario, I take it that in the grand scheme of things, as well, that the matter would normally be able to be judged in a court of law, where the matter was, in relation to a victim or an alleged offender.
Just add that to the melting pot!
GKCNN understands the DPP's main area of concern is the alleged victim's version of events and whether it would withstand sustained attack under cross-examination.
What about the fact with respect your DPP that the victim cannot seek a judgement in a criminal court because the victim cannot reach out to the court to give her version of events.
Just add that to the melting pot!
Bob Carr: She can take up the matter with a civil court for damages.
Ask Bob about Bilal Skafe's 55 years for gang rape (setting an example) for column "A" whom don't get charged or named. Not civil at all Bob. What has changed here? Your corporate interests? So how do column "A" set examples Bob?
Just add that to the melting pot!
The Opposition: Nothing!
They normally want to stamp on the offender's head but not this time, why? Mr Brogden what has changed here? Your corporate interests?
Just add that to the melting pot!
Now what about the evidence that is surrendered by examination and cross-examination of the alleged gang rapists? How would they perform in the witness box your DPP? Under oath? Also how would those Bulldogs executives perform under oath? You know the ones that resigned!
Just add that to the melting pot!
But did police themselves convince the victim and the DPP that she would fail under cross-examination and was this case investigated properly? I don't think so!
Just add that to the melting pot!
Perhaps we can now get police to investigate themselves to find out whether there has been any cover-up. Surely the girl was raped.
Allegedly some of the woman's claims have been called into question by other independent witnesses, who give contrary versions. Like CH 10's news reporters! Go find the dog that takes the bone and ignore anyone else who would paint the picture that describes the event.
Did the police seek and rely on negative statements to prove their case? I think so!
Just add that to the melting pot!
Now we are all gathered here in the court room your Worship where we have a victim who has been gang raped by some people and we know where the event took place and we also know about some of the people who were there and we also know that some of the Bulldogs officials know what happened.
With the greatest respect your Worship I would like to call?????????????.
To give evidence on oath your Worship about the gang rape of Ms Y.
THE DAILY TELEGRAPH: In other developments yesterday:
THE policeman in charge of the Bulldogs investigation admitted there was physical evidence of rape; QUESTIONS were raised over why three club stalwarts lost their jobs in the wake of the affair; WIVES and girlfriends of players were being counselled to deal with the affair's aftermath; and
BULLDOGS chief executive officer Malcolm Noad said any player who had behaved inappropriately in Coffs Harbour would be punished within the next 14 days.
The fine follows an NRL board decision last month to impose a suspended four competition point penalty on the club for crowd violence.
If the Bulldogs are found guilty of further breaches before 2006 the $350,000 fine would be in addition to any penalty that breach would normally attract.
As NRL chief executive David Gallop was announcing the fine, the Bulldogs board was meeting at Belmore to consider imposing its own penalties on players for breaching the club's code of behaviour.
There won't be a decision for two weeks but it is understood six players will be fined for participating in consensual sex with a woman on the Wednesday night before the alleged misbehaviour, which occurred the following Sunday morning.
Players will also be asked to account for other questionable behaviour, including comments made to the media and inappropriate dress when attending a police station.
Directors are likely to impose minimum fines of $10,000 on each player and it's not out of the question that one player might have his contract terminated.
After imposing the $500,000 fine, Gallop confirmed the Bulldogs had lodged a submission with the league against the suspended four-point penalty for crowd violence.
That penalty was imposed by the board when Malcolm Noad, now the Bulldogs CEO, was chairman of the NRL.
"We firmly believe there needs to be some incentive to ensure that football is a safe place for families to go," Gallop said.
"With that in mind we are considering the Bulldogs' submission on the four-point suspended penalty."
Gallop said the $500,000 fine in no way related to the allegations of sexual assault investigated by police.
"The NRL supports the findings of the police and asks that the public respect that this matter has been fully investigated and that no charges have been found in relation to the sexual assault," Gallop said.
"I have sympathy for the players, their families, officials, former officials, everyone involved. [?]
"Still, the behaviour of some club representatives outside of the central allegation remains disturbing and demands sanction."
The issues that led to the fine were:
THE club's failure to enforce behaviour codes for what was a promotional tour in Coffs Harbour; THE behaviour of the players at the club's Belmore training sessions; and STATEMENTS made in the media by players.
By CINDY WHAT? Disparity Editor 29 April 04
BILL HARRIGUN: It may be okay for the NRL and Rugby League to bypass empathy for money but in the wider community that's simply not the best and definitely not better than anyone, anyone I've met. Money, Money, Money, must be funny in a rich mans world! Who said that?
SHOULD EVERYONE HAVE SOME RIGHTS?
SHOULD EVERYONE BE TREATED EQUALLY?
Related:
Why the Bulldogs rape case failed?
The moment when corporate interests start to appear in the victims version of events. It is even worse when the alleged offender's aren't named and much of the case hinges on the trauma caused to the victim.
Bulldogs: Breaking the news gently
THE chances of rape charges being laid against any Canterbury Bulldogs players appear slim says the Daily Telegraph after preliminary advice? Indicated? There was insufficient evidence?
NRL should stand down alleged gang rapists
National Rugby League (NRL) boss David Gallop has called on the Bulldogs to provide details about a player who's tested positive to cocaine during tests conducted by the club last year.
Gang-rape, police, disparity and the law..
The young woman and her friend have told police they met the players in Coffs Harbour on the evening after the Bulldogs played a trial match there and went back to the team's hotel with them.
Who let the dogs out? (woof, woof, woof, woof)
The Prime Minister has thrown his support behind the National Rugby League (NRL), saying the Bulldogs affair should not reflect on the game as a whole.
Looking at it the wrong way!
The league kept quiet over the "abuse claim". "Abuse claim"! What about "Pack Rape Claim"? "Gang Bang Parties"? What about, abduction, molestation, violation, attack, assaults. Those words that others are branded with in the face of a vicious attack.
COPS leak prompts police warning, for protected persons?
Police are warning media outlets they may face criminal charges if they release confidential information about investigations.
Related Police Corruption Links:
NSW ex-Inspector Gadget claims credibility again
Just how credible is this former cop? Small's claim on Four Corners [Walls, a government propaganda machine], tonight, [that], the Government warned about Redfern problems before the riot. Like he's Mr squeaky-clean? Bad news more like it, Small was the say anything, do anything, ex-cop from hell for Bob Carr and his cronies.
Court accuses police of planting evidence
A magistrate in the south-western New South Wales city of Wagga Wagga says police there nearly beat a man to death, fabricated evidence about him, and later lied in court about the incident.
Gang-rape, police, disparity and the law..
The young woman and her friend have told police they met the players in Coffs Harbour on the evening after the Bulldogs played a trial match there and went back to the team's hotel with them.
Who let the dogs out? (woof, woof, woof, woof)
The Prime Minister has thrown his support behind the National Rugby League (NRL), saying the Bulldogs affair should not reflect on the game as a whole.
NRL, Bulldogs, looking at it the wrong way!
The league kept quiet over the "abuse claim". "Abuse claim"! What about Pack Rape Claim? Gang Bang Parties? What about, abduction, molestation, violation, attack, assaults. Those words that others are branded with in the face of a vicious attack.
Police seek to DNA test Bulldogs players
Police in New South Wales are hoping to DNA test all Canterbury Bulldogs first grade rugby league players in relation to allegations of sexual assault. A 20-year-old woman says she was assaulted by six players at a resort hotel at Coffs Harbour on New South Wales's north coast.
Cops Leak: Bulldogs accused of rape at Coffs Harbour
Police are warning media outlets they may face criminal charges if they release confidential information about investigations. Allegations that as many as six Bulldogs rugby league players had sexually assaulted a woman at Coffs Harbour.
Related Police Corruption Links:
WA: Corrupt cops and blind toothless politicians
Geoffrey Kennedy QC's $28 million report yesterday labelled the service "mediocre", blaming lack of leadership for corruption as extensive as that found by the 1987 Fitzgerald inquiry in Queensland and NSW's 1997 Wood commission.
NSW ex-Inspector Gadget claims credibility again
Just how credible is this former cop? Small's claim on Four Corners [Walls, a government propaganda machine], tonight, [that], the Government warned about Redfern problems before the riot. Like he's Mr squeaky-clean? Bad news more like it, Small was the say anything, do anything, ex-cop from hell for Bob Carr and his cronies.
Clive Small, NSW Inspector Gadget
After the Wood Royal Commission the real gang behind the gangs at Kings Cross moved from Kings Cross to Cabramatta. After the killing of John Newman, who was gunned down in front of his home by a person not found and a weapon not found, but by a person who was alleged to have conspired to kill Newman for political purposes, was framed and jailed.
Redfern police 'need to be made accountable'
POLICE have no right to demand increased support to patrol Redfern in the wake of one of the worst death in custody cover-ups by police in Australian history.
Capsicum spray killed Brisbane man
A 26-year-old man has died in Brisbane after a scuffle with police in the inner-city suburb of Highgate Hill. Police say they went to a unit complex just after midnight to speak to the man. Inspector Ian Robinson says police used capsicum spray and the man collapsed and died.
Riot in Redfern over death in custody
The reported claim that 50 police were injured during rioting in Redfern over a death in custody is nothing more than a counter claim required to balance the argument that Thomas Hickey wasn't chased to his death by police.
Fatal accident prompts police pursuit probe
A fatal car accident in New South Wales has prompted a review of the procedures police use during high-speed pursuits. Police say a man and a young girl were killed when a speeding car crashed head-on into another car at McGrath's Hill in Sydney's north-west.
Victorian author Raymond Hoser attacked
The case has been reported in some media, but severely misrepresented by the ABC who falsely implied that Hoser himself made a false claim about a magistrate Hugh Adams taking a bribe. The facts of the matter are as follows: On 21 December 1988 Policeman Ross Allen Bingley made the statement of fact that Adams had been bribed to wrongly convict Hoser of Theft and assault charges. This was tape-recorded and has been transcribed since. Hoser was innocent and exonerated on appeal.
NSW Police Force: Bent cop Cribb should be treated no different
34-year-old police inspector Shane Cribb, who shot a man shouldn't be treated differently than any other person charged with the same offence. The Daily Telegraph this morning is calling for special consideration for the cop.
One arrested in random raids: Police
A man has been arrested at a house in Punchbowl in one of 10 simultaneous raids on properties in Sydney's south-west this morning.
Random police raid terrorised residents
A police task Force randomly targeting gang warfare [and criminals green lighted by police themselves], is investigating nine murders and one disappearance, including a shooting death that sparked a dramatic random dawn raid in south-western Sydney yesterday.
Three men arrested over deadly drug feud
In a day of extraordinary developments in investigations into gangland violence [and police corruption], in southwest Sydney, armed plainclothes detectives from strike force Gain swooped on three men in the shopping area of the Star City Casino complex at about 2.30pm.
Drive-by shootings: test your political IQ?
Sydney was being controlled by around a thousand gun-toting young men and a new jail was needed to put them in, the NSW opposition said on Friday, in the wake if Sydney's drive-by shootings.
NSW drug wars: family feud not responsible for shootings
Do New South Wales citizens have to be diverted from the truth about a drug infested gangland killing? Why did the police lie? Why did the Premier lie? What is wrong with our government and police, are they on the take? Are they on drugs? Are these people being drug tested?
NSW Opp calls for greater police powers
The New South Wales Opposition has used the latest fatal shooting in Sydney's south-west to call for police to be given powers to conduct random car searches.
Hollingsworth: Whistleblower meeting at Mensa
The speaker will be Kim Hollingsworth, another idealist woman police whistleblower who reported corruption within the service and wouldn't back down, despite suffering financial and emotional distress, as a consequence of Police victimisation of her.
First degree murder? Or Noble Cause Corruption?
A "STUDENT" who was alleged to be involved in a murder and armed robberies is being sent to university, after turning police informant, the man has been given indemnity from prosecution relating to a string of serious offences. These include a hold-up in which shopkeeper Khiem Lu was stabbed to death.
Australian drivers licence dangerous weapon
In the hands of police the Australian motor vehicle driver's licence has become, and soon becoming a very dangerous and powerful weapon that can and will be used against you in a court of law.
Licensed to drive, be intimidated, be harassed, and interfered with?
NSW Police should not be given any more power to stop drivers going about their business. These new powers are just a substitute for the recent attack on privacy, whereby police wanted to search for guns by stopping drivers randomly.
The Australian Institute of Criminology has released the National Deaths in Custody Program annual report for 2002 Between January and December 2002, there was a total of 69 deaths in custody in Australia. There were 50 deaths in prison custody and 19 deaths in police custody and custody-related police operations.
Police WarLords set to take over Sydney again
Police warlords are set to take over Sydney's suburbs because police are not being supervised properly.
Jailed man's conviction to be reviewed
The New South Wales Court of Criminal Appeal will today review the conviction of a man, after claims in the Police Integrity Commission (PIC) last year that police planted weapons and faked suspects' confessions.
Rookies step up to ranks of Keystone-Cops?
Officers untrained in major criminal investigation are being posted to the state's elite body of detectives.
The inaugural Australian Police Summit
The inaugural Australian Police Summit (APS) will take place 18-19 June 2003 at the Australian Technology Park, Sydney. APS is Australia's only dedicated event focusing on all aspects of Law Enforcement and Policing.
NSW Police! Soothsayers or slayers? Strategy part 3 Permit denial
Part three: Refuse to grant a permit for another planned march because they manipulated the populist view. How? By exploiting your argument and eroding the public's confidence in peaceful demonstrations and by using the media to tell their lies, then using that as a weapon against peace.
Police violence fractures Peace movements?
The resolution also criticised New South Wales Assistant Police Commissioner Dick Adams for creating a threatening environment by mobilising excessive force for the protest.
No confidence in 'Force' when service is out the door
How are shopkeepers and service staff going to feel today knowing police are vulnerable to be attacked while serving customers at the counter of a police station?
'Police Integrity Commission' Why do you lie like that?
A Police Integrity Commission inquiry which took more than a year, heard more than 50 witnesses - many of them senior police - and cost millions of dollars, has recommended that no action be taken against anyone.
Every dog has his day: Brammer resigns
The Police Integrity Commission found that Brammer, along with other senior police, had at times displayed a lack of support for the former police reform body, the Crime Management Support Unit.
MPs told of police corruption
Corruption and mismanagement are still entrenched in the NSW Police, and problems at the highest levels are "whitewashed", according to evidence given yesterday to a federal parliamentary committee.
Black Knight Moroney to give evidence?
Accusations about former high-ranking NSW policewoman Lola Scott's alleged failure to act against paedophiles have dominated a federal crime inquiry hearing in Sydney.
The NSW Police Force
The NSW Police Force has stopped production on its new movie Viking. Viking, showing in NSW Parliament House and in the suburbs of Sydney recently.
Crime victim group wants say in money allocation
A spokesperson from Justice Action Mr Brett Collins said, "Victims should be properly compensated regardless of the source and that is currently the law. The law says you don't need to find even the offender to get compensation. This is an attempt by the opposition to create a law and order issue-involving victims when there is in fact no issue!
Abolition of 800 year old double jeopardy law a crime
The 800-year-old rule prevents a person who's acquitted of a criminal charge from ever being re-tried for that offense.
When real safety is jeopardised in NSW
Perception of crime is still a problem in NSW, with a new Productivity Commission report showing the state's citizens feel less safe than most of their counterparts.
Terry Falconer: KILLED IN CUSTODY
TERRY FALCONER CASE: Terry Falconer was picked up by a uniformed policeman and two detectives on work release from Silverwater jail. Handcuffed and found two weeks later chopped up in chicken wire at Wauchope and dumped below the tide mark. Two fishermen found Falconer.
The body in the seven bags still hides its secrets Who is going to report this failure by the NSW police to solve this most important crime? When there is evidence that the perpetrator was the police who are the same people who are investigating the crime or said to be investigating the crime. The diversion here is that bikies committed the crime even though the head of Rebells bikie gang worked for the NSW police for 22 years in an elite tactical response group.
Call to Bronwyn Bishop's Federal Crime Inquiry
I call on Bronwyn Bishop to allow me to produce first evidence about police corruption and to be able to attend Parliament House Sydney without fear of conviction.
Australia: politicians should watch police
In Sydney yesterday the Opposition police spokesman, Andrew Tink, urged Federal Labor MPs to allow the public hearing of the claims, which include that senior police, the PIC and the Ombudsman's office were failing to investigate legitimate complaints of misconduct, including corruption in the police promotion system.
The community questions ICAC's slagging and fobbing you off?
The ICAC, Commissions, Ombudsman, Police Integrity Commission (PIC), and numerous Tribunals etc, are all arms of government set up as an insurance police for the government's 3 or 4 year election terms. In short they'll be out of office by the time you may be lucky enough to have your matter heard.
Who is bad?
Super Rat? M5? M11? K8? N2? So I trust that some people who, with the photos and guns guessed that a jury would quickly establish a case against a profiled person whom, you just had a picture and a history of. Common knowledge? The government knew their victims would take the blame. Not just chess in court, 'moving around the pieces', but 'putting false evidence, or not enough evidence before the jury."
2,500 crooked detectives? Or a corrupt Government?
Evan Whitton: Either two things occurred. If you said you didn't join the police force to extort money from working girls, your papers were marked 'not suitable for plain clothes' and you were sent back to uniform.
How to become corruption resistant in NSW
Don't trust those who cannot prove themselves with the little amounts of trust you give them. Just because they have a letter of perceived trust doesn't mean they can be trusted.
This is not how you eat 'antisocial behaviour'
Process corruption, perjury, planting of evidence, verbals, fabricated confessions, denial of suspects rights, a solicitor to induce confessions, tampering with electronic recording equipment, framing. Generally green lighting crime, and I say Murder, including the kids who overdosed on heroin. No doubt.
Black Knight - Long way to go home
In line with the current climate of police corruption and the demise of the reform unit set up by Wood, these facts ought to have been a good reason to leave Moroney out of the package as Commissioner.
Deeds
I am disturbed by Governments 'actions' in relation to shuffling the police service. Clive Small seconded into Parliament like a cocky in a perch. A breach of the fundamental Separation of Powers Doctrine does not in my view allow the thought of intervening, planning, or shuffling to stack the deck of our police service. The one that suppose to be autonomous according to Lord Denning. Where the Parliamentary Secretary can ask the commissioner of police to 'report' then sack him if he is not satisfied with such report.
Australia's Political Underworld...& their enforcers
The promotion of law and order means money to big business. Profits from insurance, security fixtures, patrol services and the like can only continue to grow if the perceived threat of uncontrollable crime wave escalates. In the past few months there have been many examples of the true nature of our blood thirsty politicians and their sinister attempts to spoon-feed a not so gullible public with their repetitious rhetoric.
Truth
Who is telling the truth? Well I guess Dr. Ed. Chadbourne or Mr. Peter Ryan may have the answer to that. Dr. Chadbourne sacked by Peter Ryan and more specifically in my view because he elected deputy commissioners Dave Madden and Andrew Scipione as the best men in the service in relation to his qualifications to make a recommendation in his capacity as human resources.That is if you believe that a Dr. can be corrupted.
Honesty
What is happening between the Police Service and politics is quite extraordinary at the moment. If stand over tactics don't work tell half the truth honestly and follow the example of sheep. Another word for it is sleaze, yeah. Another word for it is workplace harassment. Another word for it is bribing a Police Officer. Another word for it is misleading Parliament.
Tele Tales
Most people I know don't buy the Daily Telegraph. Why? Because of the lies and propaganda purported by them.
Lord Denning
Interesting how a member of the Police Board Mr. Tim Priest would hold grave fears for his safety from dangerous senior police but fails to name them or have them sacked. Rather Priest resigns as if he had no powers. Could that mean what he was saying is that the Governments are also corrupt?
Corrosive
Clive Small is Bob Carr's choice for the new Police Commissioner. It could only be the case considering his, Small's special appointment into Parliament House. Small who suffers from the little person syndrome is the ideal bend over boy who gets shuffled through his corrupt actions. Rolling the legal system for him after the fact, just like his predecessor Roger the dodger Rogerson.
Black Nexus
The Separation of Powers Doctrine is nowcontaminated witharangeofcolours, now leaving us with a black shirt on a once blue bridge that crossed that thin blue line. The 'Amery and Woodham show'.
Same boat
The Premier, Bob Carr, relies on a militia. A gang of bikies and our Police Service, to show all of us he is no murderer. He should be taken to the task along with his partners in crime like Clive Small to account for those people who like my self have been maliciously assaulted and who have complained, without any service and those who cannot speak for themselves who were murdered, like Terry Falconer. Terry murdered in custody.
Good Cop
Why have our democratic institutions broken down? It's not just the criminal justice system. The Anti-Corruption Network webmaster@anti-corruption-network.org exposes the same issues. A group of white-collar workers who say they have suffered as follows:
Dangerous
I refer to the Daily Telegraph article 22 March 2002 under the heading Priest quits advisory job.
Partners in crime - history!
Roger Rogerson, the old hero, who never faced a result in the Warren Lanfranchi, or Sally-Anne Huckstepp murders, was let off in my opinion when the New South Wales Government rolled the legal system (deciding what evidence to give the police prosecutor) to have the jury believe the illusion they (the Government wanted to create).
Police Chronology 1994-2001
View events in the NSW Police Force since the Wood Royal Commission began in 1994. 1994 May Justice James Wood is appointed Commissioner of the Royal Commission into the NSW Police Service ('WRC').
