Tuesday, November 5, 2002

The community questions ICAC's slagging and fobbing you off?

Concerns have been raised about the investigative capacity of the New South Wales Independent Commission against Corruption (ICAC), after revelations that a large number of people it has found to have acted corruptly have never been prosecuted in the courts.

[The ICAC, Commissions, Ombudsman, Police Integrity Commission (PIC), and numerous Tribunals etc, are all arms of government set up as an insurance police for the government's 3 or 4 year election terms. In short they'll be out of office by the time you may be lucky enough to have your matter heard.

Even worse, some of those arms like the PIC only take on cases that they want. The ICAC specifically is only there to make sure that the State doesn't get ripped off. So yes they will look for the money but other matters like police corruption can be handled by the police themselves. Finding out about Noble Cause Corruption doesn't matter because that is done by the government and would only embarrass themselves.]

State Labor MP and head of the parliamentary committee overseeing the ICAC, corrupt MP John Hatzistergos, says the evidence it gathers is often insufficient for charges to be laid by the Director of Public Prosecutions.

Hatzistergos says the committee will examine whether the ICAC's evidence gathering techniques are adequate, or effective."Significant amounts of money in some cases were involved and to have a situation where those persons have been publicly identified and exposed as having been corrupt, but are not being brought to account through the criminal process is one which I believe the public of NSW would want to ask a lot of questions about... so we need to ask why this has happened and make sure it doesn't happen again," he said.

[Yes and what about corrupt Noble Cause Police? To have a situation where those persons investigate themselves and have been publicly identified and nor exposed as having been corrupt, and are not being brought to account through the Ombudsman, PIC or the criminal process is one which I believe that the public of NSW would also want to do something to stop it! Money might be one thing to look out for but what abut human life?]

The ICAC's commissioner Irene Moss says the corruption watchdog's role is to investigate corrupt conduct, which may not necessarily result in prosecution.

Gregory Kable a spokesperson for Justice Action reported " If the ICAC investigate life or money, you can bet you get the box and they get the money. Public sector corruption also includes rotten police given the green light by the government who will not investigate itself.

Has anyone got the list of complaints sent to the ICAC, the complaints that are terminated at the door when the public get no service from the Police Integrity Commission the Ombudsman, and now the ICAC?

Few people get booked because these agencies are set up for public confidence and are only the government of the day's insurance policy slagging and fobbing people off.

The sad fact is unless Brogden or Carr ask the ICAC to investigate it is unlikely you get anything more than a standard letter. If they do investigate because Brogden or Carr said so, then just like the police who are found to be corrupt those people get little or no sentence anyway or simply just walk away. Why? Because the government is behind the corruption and the people responsible cannot be punished for the government's own corruption.

Who is bad?

You wouldn't suppose the Police Integrity Commission is just kinder letting of some steam in that big pressure cooker on government hill would you?

NSW officer comes clean

Yet another NSW detective ''rolled over" and admitted his corruption yesterday, and in the process revealed a saga of dirty dealings, dirty money - and even dirty laundry.

By Peter Hammond 5 Nov 2002


Murder charge first for DNA data bank link, but not the same as solving the murder Mass DNA testing of prisoners has [allegedly] led to the first NSW case of a person being charged with a previously unsolved murder as a result of a controversial gene-matching data bank.

NSW Parliament Bitter Pills To Swallow?
One delusion pill: So people who investigate their own mistakes make sure there was no mistake or someone else made the mistake. Perhaps you're not biased and you will be honest about it.

2,500 crooked detectives? Or a corrupt Government?
Evan Whitton: Either two things occurred. If you said you didn't join the police force to extort money from working girls, your papers were marked 'not suitable for plain clothes' and you were sent back to uniform.

How to become corruption resistant in NSW
Don't trust those who cannot prove themselves with the little amounts of trust you give them. Just because they have a letter of perceived trust doesn't mean they can be trusted.

This is not how you eat 'antisocial behaviour'
Process corruption, perjury, planting of evidence, verbals, fabricated confessions, denial of suspects rights, a solicitor to induce confessions, tampering with electronic recording equipment, framing. Generally green lighting crime, and I say Murder, including the kids who overdosed on heroin. No doubt.

Black Knight - Long way to go home
In line with the current climate of police corruption and the demise of the reform unit set up by Wood, these facts ought to have been a good reason to leave Moroney out of the package as Commissioner.

Bob down and sniff my arse
These are serious invasions of privacy and draconian laws? Where are our democratic soldiers, the lawyers and the barristers who need to take on the government in the courts? Are they plastic? Or to busy feathering their nests? Or have they been cleverly purchased by this black government. Drug test police and politicians, and have the tests independently accessed.

Come in spinner? Or Come in sinner?
"You don't have, in my view very vigilant processes. I suppose it's akin to the problem of corruption within the police," he told the ABC radio. " People say there's corruption with the police (but) do you get the police to investigate problems within their own ranks?

I am disturbed by Governments 'actions' in relation to shuffling the police service. Clive Small seconded into Parliament like a cocky in a perch. A breach of the fundamental Separation of Powers Doctrine does not in my view allow the thought of intervening, planning, or shuffling to stack the deck of our police service. The one that suppose to be autonomous according to Lord Denning. Where the Parliamentary Secretary can ask the commissioner of police to 'report' then sack him if he is not satisfied with such report.

Australia's Political Underworld...& their enforcers
The promotion of law and order means money to big business. Profits from insurance, security fixtures, patrol services and the like can only continue to grow if the perceived threat of uncontrollable crime wave escalates. In the past few months there have been many examples of the true nature of our blood thirsty politicians and their sinister attempts to spoon-feed a not so gullible public with their repetitious rhetoric.

Who is telling the truth? Well I guess Dr. Ed. Chadbourne or Mr. Peter Ryan may have the answer to that. Dr. Chadbourne sacked by Peter Ryan and more specifically in my view because he elected deputy commissioners Dave Madden and Andrew Scipione as the best men in the service in relation to his qualifications to make a recommendation in his capacity as human resources.That is if you believe that a Dr. can be corrupted.

What is happening between the Police Service and politics is quite extraordinary at the moment. If stand over tactics don't work tell half the truth honestly and follow the example of sheep. Another word for it is sleaze, yeah. Another word for it is workplace harassment. Another word for it is bribing a Police Officer. Another word for it is misleading Parliament.

Tele Tales
Most people I know don't buy the Daily Telegraph. Why? Because of the lies and propaganda purported by them.

Lord Denning
Interesting how a member of the Police Board Mr. Tim Priest would hold grave fears for his safety from dangerous senior police but fails to name them or have them sacked. Rather Priest resigns as if he had no powers. Could that mean what he was saying is that the Governments are also corrupt?

Clive Small is Bob Carr's choice for the new Police Commissioner. It could only be the case considering his, Small's special appointment into Parliament House. Small who suffers from the little person syndrome is the ideal bend over boy who gets shuffled through his corrupt actions. Rolling the legal system for him after the fact, just like his predecessor Roger the dodger Rogerson.

Black Nexus
The Separation of Powers Doctrine is nowcontaminated witharangeofcolours, now leaving us with a black shirt on a once blue bridge that crossed that thin blue line. The 'Amery and Woodham show'.

Same boat
The Premier, Bob Carr, relies on a militia. A gang of bikies and our Police Service, to show all of us he is no murderer. He should be taken to the task along with his partners in crime like Clive Small to account for those people who like my self have been maliciously assaulted and who have complained, without any service and those who cannot speak for themselves who were murdered, like Terry Falconer. Terry murdered in custody.

Good Cop
Why have our democratic institutions broken down? It's not just the criminal justice system. The Anti-Corruption Network webmaster@anti-corruption-network.org exposes the same issues. A group of white-collar workers who say they have suffered as follows:

I refer to the Daily Telegraph article 22 March 2002 under the heading Priest quits advisory job.

Partners in crime - history!
Roger Rogerson, the old hero, who never faced a result in the Warren Lanfranchi, or Sally-Anne Huckstepp murders, was let off in my opinion when the New South Wales Government rolled the legal system (deciding what evidence to give the police prosecutor) to have the jury believe the illusion they (the Government wanted to create).

Police Chronology 1994-2001
View events in the NSW Police Force since the Wood Royal Commission began in 1994. 1994 May Justice James Wood is appointed Commissioner of the Royal Commission into the NSW Police Service ('WRC').