Pope slams torture as 'intolerable violation' of human rights

Rome: Pope John Paul II today strongly condemned torture as an "intolerable violation" of human rights during his weekly prayer, to loud applause from pilgrims gathered on St Peter's Square at the Vatican.

"May the joint commitment of institutions and citizens completely ban this intolerable violation of human rights, radically contrary to human dignity," he said.

Earlier this month, the pontiff deplored the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by US soldiers at the Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad.

During Sunday's prayer, the Pope also greeted a group of young Israelis and Palestinians who are visiting Italy along with their families, stressing that "they want to say together, that they wish for peace and reconciliation in the holy land."

[Religious Bondage.]

Pope John Paul II: "They are saying it with all the more strength since in their families, both Palestinian and Israeli, there have been casualties of this ongoing conflict," he added.

"It's the duty of everyone not to disappoint these young people."

[Similarly, it is a duty of everyone not to disappoint children who have been molested by the Catholic Church.]

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The Inquisition reached its peak in the 16th Century. [?]

The Vatican has published a new study on the abuses committed by the medieval Inquisition and come to a rather surprising conclusion - that in fact the much feared judges of heresy were not as brutal as previously believed. [?]

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And here: THE EMPIRE OF "THE CITY" (World Superstate) part 2

According to the 800-page report, [allegedly], the Inquisition that spread fear throughout Europe throughout the Middle Ages did not use execution or torture to anything like the extent history would have us believe. [?]

In fact the book's editor, Professor Agostino Borromeo, claims that in Spain only 1.8% of those investigated by the notorious Spanish Inquisition were killed. [?]

Nonetheless, as the report was published, Pope John Paul II apologised once more for the interrogators' excesses, expressing sorrow for "the errors committed in the service of the truth by the recourse to non-Christian methods".

[What about all the children molested by the Catholic Church?]

[Allegedly], the recourse to torture and the death sentence weren't so frequent as it long has been believed Professor Agostino Borromeo. [?]

But the Pope stopped short of breaking the age-old Vatican rule on not condemning your predecessors. Pope Gregory IX created the Inquisition in 1233 to curb heresy, or denial of truths of the Catholic faith, but he was not mentioned in the Pope's statement.

Hunting heretics

After the Roman Catholic Church consolidated its power across Europe in the 12th and 13th Century, it set up the Inquisition to ensure that heretics did not undermine that authority.

It took the form of a network of ecclesiastical tribunals equipped with judges and investigators.

The punishments meted out for wrongdoers ranged from being forced to visit churches and make pilgrimages, to life imprisonment or execution by burning at the stake.

The report is the result of six-years of investigation

A key component of the Inquisition was that it did not wait for complaints and accusations to be made, but actively sought out so-called heretics, who included witches, diviners, blasphemers and members of other sects.

The accused did not have the right to face and question their accuser and it was acceptable to take testimony from criminals and excommunicated people.

[Allegedly], the Inquisition reached its peak in the 16th Century as it battled the Reformation, but its most famous trial was that of Galileo in 1633, condemned for claiming the earth revolved around the sun.

Death by burning

The Spanish Inquisition which became independent from the Vatican in the 15th Century, carried out some of the most infamous abuses under its "autos da fZ" or act of faith, shorthand for death by burning.

They zealously tortured victims, held summary trials, forced conversions and passed death sentences.

"If there are many or few cases, it doesn't matter. What's important is you don't say, 'I am right and you are wrong and I burn you' "Thomas Noffke, Waldensian pastor.

"There is no doubt that at the start, the planned procedures were applied with an excessive rigour, which in some cases degenerated into true abuses," the Vatican study simply says of this dark period.

But the Vatican report, the product of a six-year investigation, insists that the Inquisition was not as bad as often believed.

Professor Borromeo says for example that, [allegedly], for 125,000 trials of suspected heretics in Spain, less than 2% were executed. [?]

He says that often mannequins were burned to represent those tried in absentia [?] and condemned to death and heretics and witches who repented at the last minute were given some sort of relief when they were strangled before being burnt.

Little comfort

But for those connected with victims of the Inquisition, Vatican claims that it was not as bad as thought carry little weight.

Galileo was the Inquisition's most famous victim

Among those targeted by the interrogators were the Waldensians, members of a Protestant sect declared heretical in the 12th Century.

"If there are many or few cases, it doesn't matter. What's important is you don't say, 'I am right and you are wrong and I burn you'," said Thomas Noffke, a US-born Waldensian pastor in Rome.

According to the study, in the Inquisition's heyday Germany killed more male and female witches than anywhere else, with some 25,000 people being put to death.

In Lichtenstein just 300 people were executed for witchcraft, but this amounted to 10% of the tiny state's population.

Cardinal Roger Etchegaray, who was at the news conference where the study was presented, said that the lessons of history never come to an end.

Acknowledging the past was all the more relevant given the continued use of torture in the 21st Century, most notably by US troops against prisoners held in Iraq, he said.

By Verity Murphy posted 17 June 04

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"You'll have a two-tier society and gradually they'll just drift further and further apart," Father Caddy said.

"Pretty soon we're going to say 'what happened to egalitarian Australia?'

"There will be two Australias and the indicators are already heading us that way."

By Five Kids Anda Lowpayed Job 14 May 03

THE PEASANT: There is two Australias already and has been for some time. The ruling class is one them. How many 2nd class citizens can you think of living in Australia?

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Come in spinner? Or Come in sinner?

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Spin is what Bob Carr and his cronies need to well up support when the chips are down. The only reason spin survives is because the people trying to deceive us hold the balance of power. Spin is a lie in the highest order and used quite often by people in the highest places. Not much different than sleaze.

In the Herald 31 May 2002 under the heading 'Keep Churches out of inquiries' where it was reported that a Melbourne Lawyer David Forster, who has represented more than 100 victims of sexual abuse, said abuse within the Catholic Church was a serious problem and one that did not always result in the offenders being dismissed.

"You don't have, in my view very vigilant processes. I suppose it's akin to the problem of corruption within the police," he told the ABC radio. " People say there's corruption with the police (but) do you get the police to investigate problems within their own ranks?

" My belief is that this is a serious problem."

Corrupt governments are the biggest spinners because of their obligations to the Crown unless that's a lie, like others who break the law and don't wish to be caught. But why do Governments like NSW wish to extend powers to police to investigate themselves. Is that the biggest spin in Australia's legal history? Corrupt? Think of the money that would be saved on inflation if governments were honest.

So when did that start? And why do most Australians let them get away with it? The only way to get rid of the spinners is to 'spin a winner' and you won't find that person in either the Labor or Liberal parties in NSW. If Bob Carr were fair dinkum he would announce from now on 'no-one will investigate themselves.'

By Gregory Kable 31 May 2002

: ED How about, The spinner offenders bill Corruption Resistant Law. Its mission is to build and sustain public sector integrity.

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Deeds
I am disturbed by Governments 'actions' in relation to shuffling the police service. Clive Small seconded into Parliament like a cocky in a perch. A breach of the fundamental Separation of Powers Doctrine does not in my view allow the thought of intervening, planning, or shuffling to stack the deck of our police service. The one that suppose to be autonomous according to Lord Denning. Where the Parliamentary Secretary can ask the commissioner of police to 'report' then sack him if he is not satisfied with such report.

Prison Mind Games-Do they exist?
Directives are given inside the prison system that are not consistent with the law in NSW. And not in the good interests of the health and well being of the prisoners.

Truth
Who is telling the truth? Well I guess Dr. Ed. Chadbourne or Mr. Peter Ryan may have the answer to that. Dr. Chadbourne sacked by Peter Ryan and more specifically in my view because he elected deputy commissioners Dave Madden and Andrew Scipione as the best men in the service in relation to his qualifications to make a recommendation in his capacity as human resources.That is if you believe that a Dr. can be corrupted.

Honesty
What is happening between the Police Service and politics is quite extraordinary at the moment. If stand over tactics don't work tell half the truth honestly and follow the example of sheep. Another word for it is sleaze, yeah. Another word for it is workplace harassment. Another word for it is bribing a Police Officer. Another word for it is misleading Parliament.

Tele Tales
Most people I know don't buy the Daily Telegraph. Why? Because of the lies and propaganda purported by them.

Lord Denning
Interesting how a member of the Police Board Mr. Tim Priest would hold grave fears for his safety from dangerous senior police but fails to name them or have them sacked. Rather Priest resigns as if he had no powers. Could that mean what he was saying is that the Governments are also corrupt?

Corrosive
Clive Small is Bob Carr's choice for the new Police Commissioner. It could only be the case considering his, Small's special appointment into Parliament House. Small who suffers from the little person syndrome is the ideal bend over boy who gets shuffled through his corrupt actions. Rolling the legal system for him after the fact, just like his predecessor Roger the dodger Rogerson.

Black Nexus
The Separation of Powers Doctrine is nowcontaminated witharangeofcolours, now leaving us with a black shirt on a once blue bridge that crossed that thin blue line. The 'Amery and Woodham show'.

Same boat
The Premier, Bob Carr, relies on a militia. A gang of bikies and our Police Service, to show all of us he is no murderer. He should be taken to the task along with his partners in crime like Clive Small to account for those people who like my self have been maliciously assaulted and who have complained, without any service and those who cannot speak for themselves who were murdered, like Terry Falconer. Terry murdered in custody.

Good Cop
Why have our democratic institutions broken down? It's not just the criminal justice system. The Anti-Corruption Network webmaster@anti-corruption-network.org exposes the same issues. A group of white-collar workers who say they have suffered as follows:

Dangerous
I refer to the Daily Telegraph article 22 March 2002 under the heading Priest quits advisory job.

Partners in crime - history!
Roger Rogerson, the old hero, who never faced a result in the Warren Lanfranchi, or Sally-Anne Huckstepp murders, was let off in my opinion when the New South Wales Government rolled the legal system (deciding what evidence to give the police prosecutor) to have the jury believe the illusion they (the Government wanted to create).