Robbing Australian banks? No!
And would you really believe the source? Well over at the Un-Australian they would, they'd even make it front page news. Really?
A prisoner convicted of masterminding a bombing who's most likely going to get something very special for being a good stool pigeon, either that or they're twisting his arm.
Just one example of bin Laden propaganda, when it suits the machine an no doubt they'll be jumping on the bandwagon this afternoon to get all the housewives frightened at home at 5.pm.
NSW Prisoners linked to Bin Laden: Ten NewsSo I don't believe it! Of course they were Australian dollars, that's because Australia is behind the allegation, no doubt!
Yes my friends, just another way to place fear in 'some' Australians, without actually blowing something or someone up over here, where incidentally, there has never been a reported terrorist bombing!
Bin Laden the Afghanistan Ace of Spades!This propaganda is reported time and time again to aid the build up of the Australian War Machine and the American Military Industrial Complex (AMIC) in the illegal and degrading imperialism in the Afghan region, in the hope that it will legitimise the killing of innocent civilians caught up in the war.
But we haven't heard from 'where's he bin' bin Laden for so long and now the war has started in Afghanistan it's time to retrieve the draw card again and headlines to excuse bloody war on innocent civilians and indigenous Afghans.
Yes my friends, there are bombers in our midst and the Un-Australian terror cell does exist, offering us their valuable spin to encourage us to turn a blind eye to lies, to the war and the blatant attacks on our civil liberties.
Rois, who also goes under the name of Iwan Dharmawan, allegedly told police under interrogation that a courier had delivered the cash to Malaysian master bomber Azahari bin Husin and it came directly from bin Laden.
But don't you just love it how prisoners are believed when the authorities want to believe them yet if a prisoner pleaded innocent they'd never believe them, ever, unless they were proven innocent beyond a reasonable doubt! So is this a sudden change in philosophy in the war on justice, human rights and liberty.
Allegedly, Rois said Australia had been chosen as a target for the bombing because of its support for the US in Iraq, according to a transcript of his police interview seen by the Un -Australian.
And because it was seen by the Un-Australian you got to believe it right? Wrong!Did the Un-Australian see how the information was gathered? Before it became a transcript of an alleged interview? And what has that got to do with the initial claim that bin Laden paid in Australian dollars? The mind boggles.
Here we go now!
The Un-Australian: "As the right-hand man of Azahari and co-conspirator Noordin Mohammed Top, Rois was in charge of logistics and regularly discussed operations and planning with his two militant superiors."
GKCNN: Did he?
The Un-Australian: "His claim is 'significant' because it 'indicates' bin Laden maintained direct contact with Indonesian operatives after the 2003 arrest of Hambali, the linkman between al-Qa'ida and Indonesia's extremist Jemaah Islamiah network."
GKCNN: Notice they used all the "keywords" "bin Laden", "Hambali" the link-man, "al-Qai'ida" and "JI" even though most Indonesians don't even believe there is any extremist group called JI and they can't catch bin Laden but instead went to war on Iraq!
So if the information is false and misleading and gained from a prisoner who is likely to have been coerced then what is this story even about?
Please explain! Try showing us the Australian money!
The Un-Australian: "Rois was caught by police in West Java last November, two months after the truck bombing at the embassy killed the suicide bomber and 10 innocent people, and wounded scores of others."
"What I know, from what was said to me by Dr Azahari when we were still in the rented house in Purwakarta, the bombing cost as much as $10,000, which Dr Azahari said would convert to around 50million to 60million rupiah," Rois told police in an official interview on November 10 last year."
GKCNN: But Rois did not tell police the Un-Australian told us that Rois told police and if the Indonesian police told us that Rois told police, are they also telling us we should trust the Indonesian police and make up our mind about the rest?
Just like you'd trust an Australian policeman? Not even in the witness box giving some type of evidence on oath?
Well it wasn't really an official interview examined or given in a court of law but and official propaganda address by the official Indonesian police.
So really what does that mean? It was officially obtained by coercion or it was officially made up? Or perhaps it was official because no one else witnessed it but officials?
The Un-Australian: "According to Dr Azahari's explanation to me at the time, the funds came from Osama bin Laden, and they were sent by a courier, but he didn't say the name, or when he received it." ?
The reason for attacking Australia, Rois said, was because it was a US ally.
"The intention to bomb the Australian embassy was because the Australian Government is the American lackey most active in supporting American policies to slaughter Muslims in Iraq. It had the aim of preventing Australia again leaning on Muslims, especially in Iraq," he said.
GKCNN: Well not many people would disagree with the statement, "because the Australian Government is the American lackey most active in supporting American policies to slaughter Muslims in Iraq", and that is why it accompanies the other lies because these reporters know what they are doing.
Allot of the truth and a big lie in between to make up for the lie so people will believe it but what I'm saying is if you take it from the start you really have to confirm the first part of the second part in order to agree with the whole part.
What is sadly lacking here is whether this information was given on oath or a true testimony and even then it would be difficult to believe without any other evidence!
In short not many people would believe the Indonesian police ever, so why is an Un-Australian Newspaper so willing along-side the Australian authorities, without ever being shown real proof, from a person that could be believed or without even hearing such evidence given in a court of law on oath?
The Un-Australian: "The police dossier on Rois provided the foundation of the prosecution's case against the militant, who is now standing trial on terrorism charges."
GKCNN: Then perhaps we should wait for the hearing?
The Un-Australian: "With transcripts of four 'official interrogations' conducted with Rois between November and February, the dossier lays out the planning for the bombing on September 9 in central Jakarta."
GKCNN: But it doesn't attest to any coercion?
Repeated for you mind-set but did he tell police? Did he give this evidence on oath? If he's a criminal then how can he be believed while still awaiting trial?
The Un-Australian: "Rois, a 30-year-old trader from West Java, told police the plan to attack the Australian embassy was the brainchild of Top, and he also revealed that Azahari and Top planned further attacks in Jakarta.
Asia's most-wanted men have successfully eluded police since the 2002 Bali bombings.
GKCNN: Including bin Laden!
The Un-Australian: "Azahari and Top had about 50kg of TNT stashed somewhere, Rois said, adding that after the bombings he was told by Top not to leave West Java. "Because, God willing, we still had other targets in Jakarta," Rois quoted Top as saying. The order followed the militants' disappointment with the embassy attack -- only 10 innocent people dead, all Indonesians and, they suspected, mostly Muslims.
Rois said the attack plan was for the suicide bomber Heri Golun to drive the truck through the embassy gates as they opened to let a vehicle out or, alternatively, to crash through them. Yet Golun, who was a novice driver, detonated the truck metres before the gates."
GKCNN: Keyword Abu Bakar Bashir?
The Un-Australian: "In late September, more than a fortnight after the embassy bombing, Top ordered two of the attack operatives, Jabir and Abdul Fatah, to an area in Java. Rois added: "I found out later they went to the Ngruki school in Solo." The order was yet another loop of evidence linking extremist cleric Abu Bakar Bashir's notorious Ngruki school to the spate of terrorist bombings that has shaken Indonesia in recent years. The alma mater of dozens of militants accused and convicted of terrorism, Ngruki has yet to be shut down by Jakarta.
A senior Australian government security expert said yesterday that it was possible that al-Qa'ida had funded the Jakarta embassy bombing but there had been no intelligence that proved the claim. "You would keep an open mind about it. It is certainly possible," he said. The expert judged it unlikely that Rois would have known if any money had been transferred directly from bin Laden to Azahari and Top."
GKCNN: Who might the senior Australian government security expert be? mick keelty? "The expert judged", so we are to be more likely to believe the 'expert' but we don't even know if he/she is credible or if he/she is part of the propaganda or if he/she is actually an expert?
So my point is before you tell us about an expert's opinion show us the money? What are the expert's credentials? Not a bad question if you're going to quote and 'expert' opinion.
The Un-Australian: "With his trial now under way in South Jakarta District Court, Rois faces stiff terrorism charges, and the prosecutors could even recommend that the three judges sentence him to death. He managed the logistics of the attack."
GKCNN: He could also recommend that he give the evidence purported by the Un-Australian today instead of hearing it third, or fourth hand?
The Un-Australian: "Expected to testify in his own defence tomorrow, Rois has denied he was a member of JI. He helped with the embassy blast because he had been inspired by the master-bombers. "I joined Noordin Top and Dr Azahari because Mr Top always motivated me about jihad," he said."
GKCNN: I'm still wondering then why the Un-Australian didn't wait until tomorrow? And who inspired Noordin Top and Dr Azahari? Wouldn't be the American Miltary Industrial Complex by any chance?
The Un-Australian: "Rois also told police his bosses, Azahari and Top, had confirmed they took part in planning the 2002 Bali blasts, which killed 202 people including 88 Australians, and the bombing at Jakarta's Marriott hotel in 2003, which killed 12."
GKCNN: Oh! Great finish only to be commended? It sounds like the Un-Australian finds him guilty before his trial and they even gave his evidence for him?
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Bashir: All liesBashir handed out as a trophy on a silver plate for George Dubya, and John HoWARd? Abu Bakar Bashir is a Preacher and a Teacher and not a terrorist leader as pro-government media are broadcasting.
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CIA informer tells court of Bashir's visits?The key witness in the trial of Indonesian teacher and cleric Abu Bakar Bashir has told a Jakarta court that Bashir once inspected graduating troops at a terrorist training camp?
Sept 11 US false flag operation poses $130,000 challengeA millionaire activist who believes the September 11 terrorist attacks in 2001 were and "inside job" is offering a $130,000 reward to anyone who can prove him wrong.
100's of thousands of Aussies cancel holidays in Indonesia?Australians are being warned to avoid international hotels in Indonesia, particularly the Hilton chain, with intelligence pointing to an imminent terrorist attack. Australia's ambassador to Indonesia, David Ritchie, delivered the travel advice to the Hilton chain within minutes of its release yesterday.
Fool me twice 1-20 -Official release (BALI BOMBINGS/ETimor) Exposing the Australian government's lies about the East Timor massacres, the cover-up of the Bali bombings (including '93 WTC attack) and subsequent anti-terror legislation forced through parliament.
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Part TWO: Who really Benefited from the Bali Bombings?PART THREE: The Investigation(s) Or lack thereof The Primary man at the centre of the Bali investigations got warned off the scent by US Ambassador to Indonesia..
Part 4: The Truth About Bali Bombings Eye witness Testimony and memorial dedication..
Indonesian police set-up Jakarta man?"Who would blow themselves up when there is no war? Who would give up their life for no struggle? The CIA would! Why? Because the CIA are at war with the world, and they aim to cause terror and slam the Iron fist of fear into the community in the Asian pacific region."
See Links History From 2002:AFP: The unlikely CRIMINALIt was born of a bombing and it made its name after a far more devastating act of terrorism. But for most of the 25 years in between, little was known about the Australian Federal Police force or the work it did.
SMS was Keelty's first choice: Alleged bomberKeelty: "It was just days before Australia's embassy was attacked on September 9"? But you couldn't believe SMS could you? If your life depended on it? What about inviting him to you birthday party? Would you believe answering his own SMS text message? Could you trust him with that?
EVERYONES ABC PROPAGANDA?THE HEADLINE: New Indonesian President flags strengthening anti-terror laws
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Community backs candidate wife's Bali claimsFederal Labor Party candidate Ivan Molloy says he supports the sentiments of his wife, a Queensland state politician, who blames the Liberal Party for the 2002 Bali bombings.
Liberal PR stunt, behind SMS attack warningAustralian Federal Police (AFP) Commissioner Mick Keelty has revealed information about an SMS message warning of an attack on a western embassy in Indonesia came from an Australian businessman in Jakarta.
Howard and Downer to blame for Jakarta bombing: JI?Alleged JI Members pushed back journalists at the site of a powerful blast outside the Australian embassy in Jakarta. The Federal Government has to be condemned for the bomb attack outside the Australian embassy in Jakarta.
Indonesian Election: Australia $48 Million?The threat from terror groups and failed states means Australia needs a high-tech, rapid deployment defence force, the defence minister says.
Greens want Flood to front Bali inquiryGreens Senator Bob Brown wants the author of a key report into Australia's intelligence agencies to appear before a Senate committee examining the Bali bombings.
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Keelty foresees more terrorismAustralian Federal Police (AFP) Commissioner Mick Keelty says terrorist groups will continue to find new ways to threaten countries.
US to keep military ties with Indonesia. Target Australia?US President George W Bush says America plans to resume cooperation with Indonesia's armed forces.
The Daily Propaganda Bali bombings could have been worse?The Australian Federal Police (AFP) Commissioner, Mick Keelty, says the bombs that killed 88 Australians in Bali could have done a lot more damage if they had been built differently.
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US Deputy Sheriff dismisses Indonesian comment that US king of terroristsDeputy Sheriff to the US Prime Minister John Howard says he does not agree with comments by the Indonesian Vice-President Hamzah Haz that the real terrorist is the United States for attacking Iraq.
Keep the bastards honest: Publicity keeps an eye on ethics?The Australian Federal Police commissioner says investigations into terrorist links to Australia are being made more difficult by public debate about the progress of inquiries.
GI divided: Australian expertsGI has descended into a disparate collection of cells working at cross-purposes, with deep divisions on strategy and no clear leader except to say the Indonesian Military could be involved, senior Australian counter-propaganda police believe.
GI killers uncoveredGI has cordial flavours ranging from Raspberry all the way down to Tropical Pineapple and a new generation of drinkers have joined the ranks.
Eye for an eye or blind toothless people?Terrorists ALLEGED by the Daily Terror, 7 August 03, have claimed responsibility for the Jakarta bombing and are alleged to have sent a chilling warning that they will kill more Westerners if Bali bomber Amrozi is sentenced to death today.
Australian Terror cell here long before BaliThe Australian terrorist Captain Cook infiltrated Australia years before the Bali bombings in which 202 people perished. Aboriginal people attempted to remember Captain Cook not as a founding father but as a harbinger of dispossession and death, a sign of white amnesia. Another anniversary year-used to mark two hundred years since Cook had journeyed along the east coast of Australia and, for some people, discovered a continent.
Did the CIA blow up Bali?In a nation where conspiracy theories and rice are two of life's staples, Indonesians appear to be changing their habits. You can still get rice with your Kentucky Fried, but conspiracy theories easy to find, at least as far as the Bali bombings are concerned.
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First strike and you're out!The ideology of a super loser? John Howard shocks the nation again. A nation who cannot believe Howard's stupidity following the Bali bombing. The Bali bombing which was in direct retaliation for his previous remarks towards a first strike on Iraq.
Civil and Democratic Islam websites communicating?THE internet is becoming a virtual forum for people exchanges, with many sites specifically targeting Australia to stop the racial hate followers, and plan to continue to communicate with each other. Fantastic!
GI Strikes again! Plots plots and more plotsGI cordial's foiled plot to flood foreign embassies in Singapore, including the Australian high commission, would have used high sugar levels at the controls of cordial laden truck, a US interrogation of a key GI figure has revealed. The plot, uncovered by Singaporean authorities last December before it was fully planned, originally was intended for missions in Manila, not Singapore. The revelations, obtained by GKCNN through key summaries of the US interrogation of Mohammed Mansour Jabarah, demonstrate the new depth of GI members' commitment to the sugar cause.
Alarm over terror in 'Australia'?ISLAMIC extremists linked to GI cordial fired weapons and conducted close-quarter combat training in remote forests all over Australia. Paint Bombs were the weapon of choice.
Australian accused of plot to bomb embassiesA spokesperson for Justice Action Mr.Sooth Sayer said " the arrest is most likely connected to the invasion of the mans privacy by the new powers of ASIO. These are extraordinary laws that were invented, using people as pawns to get unprecedented powers to use to lever John Howard's propaganda machine."
It was reported that more than $100,000 was paid out of at least $600,000 used to free Michelle Leslie.
