Seminar to probe motives behind cat killings?

Parent Effectiveness Training (P.E.T.) and Leader Effectiveness Training (L.E.T.)

The RSPCA plans to examine the reasons why people commit cruelty to animals, in the wake of 'recent incidents' around Australia.

Even though people have been cruel to animals and have killed animals since the earliest times.

The latest occurred in Adelaide yesterday in which a cat was reportedly dragged behind a car in the southern suburbs says, Howard's ABC Online.

But I wonder if all the media attention has motivated the perpetrators of these violent acts to act out their frustrations on more and more cats?

Or if the media attention has motivated more media attention? To find more incidents and reports of more and more abused cats?

Police say they have good information on the type of car used but no one has been charged as yet.

I can't wait until they find these people can you?

Several witnesses reported seeing the cat being dragged for up to an hour by a white Tarago yesterday afternoon.

Police senior Constable Mick Abbott says investigators have a registration number for the vehicle suspected to be involved and the driver will face charges regardless.

But either these incidents have been noticed more now, because they are being reported more often? Or they have just been a problem now, so they are being reported more often? Or someone has an agenda to report them more often? And it makes me wonder!

Could it be because someone, somewhere, decided that as many reason that can be found to lock people up using the 'Criminal Punishment System' ought to be found and new laws need to be drafted because we as a society have an unlimited capacity to lock people up? Or is it because of the latest cat craze?

RSPCA spokeswoman Emily Vatkovich says it will be impossible to do an autopsy on the cat and the society is now assuming the cat was dead before it was dragged behind the car.

But she says it is still a shocking act nevertheless.

"Regardless of whether this cat was alive or dead when it was dragged along by the car, I think we should all be extremely concerned that people are going to these lengths to inflict such injuries on an animal and it is just an extremely brutal act of cruelty," she said.

Noone would disagree with that and of course we are extremely concerned for the cat, dead or alive however, not concerned as much as Bob Carr and the corporate media seem to be, because animal cruelty has been going on ever since the year dot.

When I was a child I seen adults place cats under milk crates and throw bungers at them to scare them away from the neighbourhood.

I've seen people take them far away from home and dump them just to get rid of them.

Parents have told me their children were the perpetrators of this crime too. Children who dumped cats or kittens into a drain or down the toilet and continued to flush it like a game because they had no idea they were being cruel.

But what concerns me is the intimation that new legislation should be drawn up to criminalise offenders using the police force. And or larger penalties for people who have offended against an animal, rather than a stern warning, fines and or education that can give them some guidance. Because many of these instances will be young adults learning about their environment opposed to a deliberate criminal act.

You can't blame children or youth for how they are being raised but you can raise parents that can raise children and pets better. Of course it takes a little financial incentive like 'Parent Effectiveness Training' that acronym incidentally stands for P.E.T. get it? That way not only do you protect pets but people too. It goes without saying so why am I saying it? I know, because we need a seminar to work it out? Why didn't I think of that?

If the intention is to learn more about the people/animal relationships in relation to crime in the community or domestic violence that's okay, but if what is really behind this seminar is new laws to validate and criminalise people based on what they have done to an animal in relation to what they could or might do to a human being, then I can certainly point you to the fact that this is nothing new.

So why now? And why not just spend more money ensuring parents get training so that kids get trained and don't go on and mistreat anything or anyone else. because they're bored or cannot think of a useful way to use their energy? Or even if they know, that using their energy usefully, serves a better purpose in life.

Ms Vatkovich says the society will use a seminar next month to examine the type of person who commits such an act.

"The main cause of the seminar is actually to look into people that abuse animals and then actually go on to act violently towards humans," she said.

"So I think it's a really important issue that needs more research done into it."

Then why was that not an important issue before?

Some animals just like children get hurt because they are disobedient and their carer has no idea about how to reach and agreement with the subservient they care for, whether that be a small child, animal or insect

Nurture Nature

Just like cradling a baby in your arms, a cradle swings below us nurturing us, if we care for all living things in our wonderful Universe.

Educate don't incarcerate!

During the witch-burning era of the 17th century, witches' cats were put into baskets and burned alongside the witches not that that should have anything to do with the current mistreatment of cats. History proves that cats have been mistreated by the human race.

So this is no special event even though it has maintained it's headlines in the mainstream media and that all of a sudden Bob Carr needs to make new laws to lock up people or for longer.

Since the first cat story recently was put on the media spot light and now every cat that has every been found makes the headlines, does that mean we need new legislation to incarcerate citizens who have been cruel to a cat?

By Wicked Witch 29 January 05

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The Cat and the Law

FROM the epoch of the cat's godhood down to the modern moment laws have been passed to protect the cat, laws which have demanded that man treat the cat in such and such a fashion.

Egyptians cat-killers were punished by death. Diodorus writes of a brave Roman soldier who was the victim of this law.

It is interesting to compare this extreme measure with the old English common law which held both cats and dogs as "no property, being base by nature," but it is also well to remember that at one time in England larceny was punished by the death penalty.

If a cat had been considered property the theft of a puss would have led the thief to the block or the scaffold. The English "Rule of Nuns" issued in the early thirteenth century, forbade the holy women to keep any beast but a cat. A canon of a date nearly a hundred years earlier forbade nuns, even abbesses, from wearing costlier skins than those of lambs and cats.

The Welsh laws concerning domestic lions were formulated in the tenth century. In 1818 a decree was issued at Ypres in Flanders forbidding the throwing of pussies from high towers in commemoration of a Christmas Spectacle. And today the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals endeavours to make the punishment fit the crime for anyone who maliciously mistreats a cat.

Spanking-ban critics offer compromise?

London: An unlikely alliance of lawyers, child professionals and politicians is condemning as unworkable plans to "jail" parents in Britain who administer anything stronger than a light smack to their children.

But it would be better if parents were sentenced to a program called 'Parent Effectiveness Training' by Thomas Gordon Phd or instead just buy them the book and sentence them to reading it.

Under the changes in the Children Bill, passed by the House of Lords by 226 to 91 votes, parents would face imprisonment for up to five years if they caused bodily harm to their child.

Parents smacking their children lightly condones physical violence and locking parents away in prison takes away the child's parents and also could leave a child vulnerable.

So this is no compromise unless children can be compromised?

The fact is children cannot be compromised and neither can the child's parents especially when it comes down to having effective carers.

So the best way is to compromise instead and to having them learn more about being better parents, rather than locking them up.

Valuing children now!

Partial ban on smacking condones other physical punishment, says experts!

NSW legislation banning parents from hitting their children above the neck in effect condones physical punishment, a child abuse conference will hear today.

The 2001 legislation specified where a child could legally be hit, which only perpetuates the view that physical punishment is normal and a parent's right, Bernadette Saunders, of the Child Abuse and Family Violence Research Unit at Monash University, says.

But under the UK measure, parents could be prosecuted for causing bodily harm if their smacks lead to grazes, scratches, swellings, cuts abrasions or bruises. Reddening of the skin would be permitted, but only if it were transitory.

David Hinchliffe, the labour MP who plans to push for a full ban on smacking when the bill returns to the House of Commons said, "it's a recipe for lawyers to print money because they will still be arguing over whether an assault has been committed or not".

But more importantly a partial ban on smacking condones other physical punishment, says experts!

International No-Smacking Day April 30 2004

A Cure For Violence and Domestic Violence simple as ABC.

If it's a crime to punish children or adults for that matter then the "punishment is the crime". Punishment, threats and smacking only get short-term results if any result at all.

Three slaps? Three bad lessons!

A MOTHER became a convicted criminal yesterday, for smacking her three-year-old son at a supermarket. She lost control after her son threw a tantrum in the middle of Coles at Dee Why. As a Coles employee and a shopper watched, the mother hit the kicking and screaming child about the head two or three times. She then dragged him to where his father was waiting at the checkout.

By No Spank posted 14 July 04

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The Seed
Respect, you only get out what you have put in. What about Life Skills, Communication and Conflict Resolution. Evolution, perhaps some children and adults miss the whole or part of the course. I did, and so how surprised do you think I was when I realised my parents missed the course as well. Things like Compromise, Win Win, Empathy, and Love. Invisible energy and other skills like public speaking, how to Relate, Assuming, Blaming, Forgiveness, Freedom and Discrimination. This is how I learned respect. If you don't know what it is then how do you relate?

Bong on Aussie?

That is how heroin is introduced by the bikies into our schools.

It is my understanding that heroin was developed and introduced by the Chinese dirty old men to have sex with young girls (slaves).

Bong on Aussie bong on the relatively harmless culture taken up by tens of thousands of Australians and seen as quite (NORML.)

ABC reported Wed 10 April that a New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has been featured on a poster to legalise marijuana in a full-page spread in the New York Times. In the ad, the foundation applauds Mr. Bloomberg's candour and lumps him in with former President Bill Clinton, New York Governor George Pataki, and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas as other officials who have admitted smoking pot.

Like a baby's bottle the bikies opened the lid on the pot culture and replaced some of the pot (milk) with Hammer. Superseded the bikies saw the opportunity, an enveloped into Australian homes and families in particular using Cabramatta and Kings Cross as a launch pad.

Without Parent Effectiveness Training our youth leave home in droves but they don't lose contact with their friends. Their emotional problems and the fear of leaving home for the first time submits them to being easily led astray. 'Just have this' 'that will make you feel better. That is until you youth crave and become a slave to the drug and a gang member is born.

From the cradle to the grave and now look who their friends are. That's right your son or your daughter. Where do they live? With Mr. and Mrs. (NORML).

The youth don't click on to it because their parents or friends don't see the real problem with the pot as much as the Smack but they suspect something.

The youth's say 'I had a few cones what's the problem'. The other youth's (friends) may think well what's the problem with spicing up the pot. 'My mate does it try it.' 'Common it's not a needle.' 'You won't get hooked.

Shortly thereafter hook line and sinker they need it all right. The dealers (bikies) make them work and the Police Service green lights the bikies supply and terrorist antics. The youths ration gets skinny the dealer knows they are hooked and the youths are not getting out of it like they use too. They may then be referred to the needle. The ultimate high.

The choice for our youths and families alike is that our children can have Heroin or nothing else in the World or No Heroin and everything else in the World.

I write to you all because I have two children of my own and no way to defend them unless I defend all of them.

Peter Ryan. Ken Seddon, and Tim Priest are family men. You don't suppose they would have been in on it do you?

After all, every family deserves sprouts!

By Buddyyyy 25 April 2002

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Deeds
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Truth
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Honesty
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Tele Tales
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Corrosive
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Dangerous
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Partners in crime - history!
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Youth Suicide

I would like to suggest firstly that starting at the root in a holistic pattern so that everyone in our community is included and a seed is planted to prevent our youth dying.

Firstly, children in our country have had extraordinary help from loving parents and perhaps for the right reasons. Hopefully the main reason is love.

However, we are all to willing to solve our children's problems, which can lead to children being stunted in problem solving areas.

For instance a child at any age can be asked to solve a problem before we suggest an answer to them. You may find that the child already has the skills required to solve their problem. If that is the case we can allow that child to solve the problem (whether we think there is a better answer or not). Unless the child asked us to help either because they do not have an answer or because they require a better way of solving the problem.

A child of six recently came up to me and said "can you open this box for me Mr?" I said Mm why dont you open it? The child said "ok" and opened the box. Therefore his parents may be opening this box at his request and not allowing the child to solve this simple task. All to willing to help because they love the child and had the time to show the child their way. Or it may simply, take a parent less time to deal with the problem. But did those parents help the child? Perhaps not, if in fact the child already had the skills.The child is not learning here to be affective at solving problems. In fact being road blocked by parents who either think it is either important to help all the time or because they have a better more efficient or suitable idea or because the parent is in a hurry.

The child is now a youth and is sixteen and doesn't make his/her school grade. Devastating to the youth's peer group and perhaps frustrating. Who knows how the youth really accepts the reality? That is why it is so important to know how to solve this loss of esteem for the youth.

The youth now is eighteen and loses his/her lover because the lover has moved on (as we do) and the same situation above may be also a problem (in this example) as well as the last (example) to move on past it by meeting someone else and accepting the loss.

Some things cannot be put to parents to solve for instance a drug dependency that has been hidden from the parents. Or in the last example even the (lover) depending on the culture and attitude of their parents.

Education Seed at the Root

At the root of course there is also a better seed to be planted in Government to prevent youth suicide.

Primarily our education system needs to be overhauled. So that ideas that are in the current literature are available to parents, friends and peers. Because parents somehow in their lives can get busy taking on a lot of commitment to get on in their lives (as we do) without thinking that there may be more efficient and new ideas to use raising children.

For instance Parent Effectiveness Training by Thomas Gordan PhD Importantly is redesigning the curriculum. For instance we need to have paramount those skills required for the children and youth to have maximum efficiency towards growth without taking to many risks and needing less resource to achieve equality. Like life skills, communication and conflict resolution together with John Howard's latest idea to improve Science and Maths. Further equal opportunity to obtain these skills.

The reason for this is that if you only depend on Maths and Science you may achieve more fiscal policy results (income from taxes) but not taken into account the inflation of loss from people who fall by the wayside not communicating or agreeing together Co-operatively to achieve a better result. If I may suggest some 5% in fact who end up either deceased or in jails.

For example try running to many sheep on a small block or farm land achieving an income without accepting that somewhere down the track the land will be worthless (inflation) and must be re purchased. The cost of course now needs to be taken off the income of the sheep to repurchase the land so you did not make as much as you first thought because the land was mismanaged. So how much income would be achieved by using our land efficiently?

A recent example is how much money was needed to be injected into the doctor patient regime whereby doctors who were highly educated still needed to notice that somehow they were not listening or getting the feedback required to solve their patients problems (sickness or ills).

Whether you're from lower, middle or upper class skills are not necessarily available to parents, friends or peers even if you have been to university level of education. Especially if we are all too willing to over help thinking we are doing our best (communicating).

Children need to be encouraged to express themselves, love themselves and communicate effectively and to resolve conflicts in order to form an agreement effectively.

For instance John is constructively feed back his achievements "I am a poet" Peter " I am a dancer". Mary "I am a pastry cook". Peers can suggest constructive criticism likes "John you're doing a great job and you have really tried hard that is so cool."

John can make an agreement and solve lots of problems in order to achieve without being frustrated to the point of wanting to end his life even if he cannot talk about his problem solving with any other person.

John may need less resources in order to achieve his goals and take fewer risks. John has a higher level of self worth and self esteem and sees himself as a dynamic instrument and loves himself. So much so that he would not want to hurt anyone elses feelings because he realises how important he is. Nor does he think he is not important enough to live.

Tantamount is that there is less inflation affecting the root source fiscally or otherwise. Like john who ends up (deceased) or in (jail) that in turn affects the macro level of resource leading to inefficiency. For Australia as a whole, or parents, friends and peers who are busy with their commitments.

We have heard it so many times.That no one had any idea that the deceased had such an enormous problem leading them to commit suicide. Even those so close to the person they loved so much.

By Gregory Kable 8 August 2001