Evans: moderate threat

Evans doubts reports that 800 potential terrorists are living in Australia

Whip It! Whip it good! (Devo!)

AUSTRALIA: Head of the International Crisis Group [a subsidiary of the CIA?] and former Labor foreign minister Gareth Evans says while the threat of a terror attack on Australian soil is real, it is a moderate one.

Crack that whip, give the past the slip, step on a crack, break your momma's back.

He says he is sceptical about reports that suggest 800 potential terrorists are living in Australia and warned police to be careful in applying new Australian anti-terror laws.

When a problem comes along, you must whip it, before the cream sits out too long, you must whip it, when something's going wrong, you must whip it!

Mr Evans said he does not have a problem with police using racial profiling to help identify suspects, saying it is a reality of the current global climate. [Scapegoats and Patsies?]

"The extreme political correctness that has led some of the American law enforcement authorities to be sort of religiously strip-searching 90-year-old ladies because that's what they have to do to demonstrate that they haven't got any racial bias built into it, is palpably absurd," he said.

Now whip it, into shape, shape it up, get straight, go forward, move ahead, try to detect it, it's not too late to whip it, whip it good!

Mr Evans says if there are 800 potential terrorists in Australia, it may be the result of government security agencies broadening their definition of Islamic extremism.

When a good time turns around, you must whip it, you will never live it down, unless you whip it, no one gets their way, until they whip it!

He says there is a big difference between Muslim activists and those with a violent political agenda.

"What I fear is that there's a bit of a disposition to run all those categories together, and say 'Anyone who's expressing distaste for the Government and doing so from a kind of religious perspective, is a potentially dangerous terrorist'."

I say whip it!

Whip it good!

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Hey War Spender

The minute John HoWARd walked into Afghanistan and Iraq, I could see he was a devil of pre-emption, a real war spender! Ugly looking, so unrefined say, wouldn't you like to know what's going on in my mind?

A shortage of spooks SMH-November 15, 2004

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"Indeed US authorities have repeatedly stated that they do not keep records of civilian casualties. However, as with the children overboard, the weapons of mass destruction and the torture of Iraqi prisoners, the truth eventually emerges."

Now let me get right to the point! I don't pop my dissent for every loser I see, hey war spender! Spend a little money on the community!

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Say, wouldn't you like to have fun, fun, fun, how's about a few laughs, laughs? I could show you a good time, let me show you a, good time!

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The World Today - Wednesday, 13 July 2005

JOHN HOWARD: To anticipate at least one of your questions, can I say that in relation to the SAS the estimated cost is in the order of - additional costs, that is -- is in the order of $50 million to $100 million. I don't have any cost estimates in relation to the PRT (provincial reconstruction team), because a final decision on that matter has not been taken.

500 new spies in anti-terror outlay

The minute HoWARd walked into Afghanistan and Iraq, I could see he were a devil of pre-emption, a real war spender! Ugly looking, so unrefined, say, wouldn't you like to know what's going on in my mind?

Patrick Walters, Weekend Australian September 10, 2005

The federal Government, already spending about $800 million a year on counter-terrorism, is poised to lift that figure even higher to cover the new measures announced by John Howard this week.

State government spending on counter-terrorism is running at about $300 million a year, according to the latest estimates.

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"The Federal Government has recorded a higher than expected budget surplus.

Final budget outcome figures released by Federal Treasurer Peter Costello reveal an underlying cash surplus of $13.6 billion in the last financial year."

Nightmare on Social Street.

Now let me get right to the point, I don't pop my dissent for every loser I see!

Hey War Spender! $$$$$$$$$$

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Spend a little money on the community! $..............

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Unemployed:

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Work for the dole was originally sold to us by Howard as a warm and fuzzy light work project. We would be working for nothing but we would be enjoying giving back something to the community, so it was reckoned.

FIGHT UNEMPLOYMENT!
Peter Costello commended this result in his budget speech. Even if we were to believe this figure it still means more than half a million living at a level much lower than that is recognised as poverty.

Mark Latham's, token gestures for older unemployed
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Work for the dole failure for two thirds
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Work for the dole? $10.00?
StandUp! Wishes to draw your attention to a serious attack on all of us--work for the dole. We were assured that unemployed would not be forced to work in areas where employed workers would normally be employed. This has shown to be a lie! Under work for the dole, unemployed have been forced to carry out; concreting, tiling, landscaping, repairs, renovation, painting, gardening, nurses and teachers aid work.

'WORK FOR THE DOLE' REDUCES JOB PROSPECTS
A major independent study commissioned by the Government and released today under Freedom of Information by The Australian newspaper indicates that the 'Work for the Dole' program actually reduces the job prospects of unemployed people.

Youth welfare system unfair: ACOSS
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Bringing up children Can we afford it?
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Federal Budget: Tax cuts for the rich!
For the Howard government, unemployed people are not even worth thinking about.

Private job network agency blues
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Centrelink puts the screws on prison debt
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Democrats approve tougher welfare penalties: But how does that pan out?
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Six weeks, six months, six years: inmates have little chance of making fresh start Even prisoners who serve short sentences are likely to suffer long-term consequences, including increased rates of homelessness and unemployment.

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GetUp! Stand Up! Stand Up For Your Rights!

Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights! Get up, stand up: don't give up the fight!

Thanks for being there at the beginning of a new movement to build a more progressive Australia!

hoWARd man, don't tell me, heaven is under the earth. I know you don't know, what life is really worth.
It's not all that glitters is gold; 'alf the story has never been told:

So now you see the light, eh! Stand up for your rights, come on!

Because of you, something exciting happened in our democracy last week. From every corner of the country, more than 20,000 emails were sent to the Coalition Senators. Our message was simple: now you have control of the Senate, we will be holding you to account. Thousands of you added personal messages to your representatives about the issues you care about.

Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights! Get up, stand up: don't give up the fight!

NowYouAnswerToUs

The Government's response to this outbreak of political participation was anything but democratic. Coalition MP and key strategist Andrew Robb appeared on national television to condemn the emails you sent to your elected representatives as "highly irresponsible" and "spam". Coalition MP Tony Smith called your messages an "email scam". And Senator Eric Abetz was so upset he complained to the Australian Electoral Commission!

Most people think, great God will come from the skies, take away everything and make everybody feel high. But if you know what life is worth, you will look for yours on earth: And now you see the light, you stand up for your rights. jah!

This government is already rattled. But our work has only just begun. This morning Senator Robert Hill announced that the Government plans to roll back the Senate budget estimates process, which plays a crucial role in exposing government bungles and cover-ups.

Get up, stand up! (jah, jah!), Stand up for your rights! (oh-hoo!), Get up, stand up! (get up, stand up!), don't give up the fight!, (life is your right!), Get up, stand up! (so we can't give up the fight!), Stand up for your rights! (lord, lord!), Get up, stand up! (keep on struggling on!), Don't give up the fight! (yeah!)

The traditional checks and balances in our parliamentary process are under threat, and we know the other political parties are incapable of a strong or effective opposition. If this government is going to be held accountable, GetUp needs to grow in strength and numbers - and we need your help to do this. Please forward this email to your friends and tell them to join the campaign:

We sick an' tired of-a your ism-skism game - Dyin' 'n' goin' to heaven in-a jesus' name, lord. We know when we understand: Almighty God is a living man. You can fool some people sometimes, but you can't fool all the people all the time. So now we see the light (what you gonna do? ), we gonna stand up for our rights! (yeah, yeah, yeah!).

As we write, the government is preparing to unveil a raft of new legislation that we deserve a say on. In the crucial period ahead, GetUp will help you take action on the major issues of the day. Stay tuned -- we are just getting started.

Thanks for being part of this,

David, Jeremy & the GetUp team

GetUp!
Action for Australia

So you better:

Get up, stand up! (in the morning! git it up!) Stand up for your rights! (stand up for our rights!) Get up, stand up! Don't give up the fight! (don't give it up, don't give it up!) Get up, stand up! (get up, stand up!) Stand up for your rights! (get up, stand up!)
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Stand up for your rights!
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Michael Jackson Not Guilty: Jury

Not Guilty on all 10 counts! Enjoy Yourself Michael! Jury reaches a verdict in Michael Jackson's 'lies innuendo and exaggeration' inquisition.

US: SANTA MARIA, Calif. - The jury in the Michael Jackson trial reached a verdict in the 'lies innuendo and exaggeration' inquisition, certainly a conspiracy case against the pop superstar.

Sheriff's deputies and court officials said the verdict was to be read after lawyers and Jackson reached the courthouse. Reserve Deputy Jim Carroll said Jackson was given until 1:45 p.m. local time to reach the courthouse, where Jackson fans yelled, "Michael, innocent."

The jury, which listened to 14 weeks of testimony and arguments, deliberated over seven days before sending word of a verdict at about 12:30 p.m California time.

The announcement came shortly after Judge Rodney Melville issued a statement saying that the jury asked and withdrew a question Monday morning. He also confirmed that on Friday the jury had a read-back of testimony and there were four meetings in chambers with attorneys. News organizations had filed motions seeking information on such developments.

Jackson, 46, was charged with molesting a 13-year-old cancer survivor in 2003, plying him with wine and conspiring to hold the boy and his family captive to get them to rebut a damaging television documentary.

In the documentary, Living With Michael Jackson, Jackson held hands with the boy and told interviewer Martin Bashir that he let children into his bed but it was innocent and non-sexual.

Jackson, who climbed to fame with the Jackson 5 and dominated pop music in the 1980s with the powerhouse Thriller and other albums, was portrayed at trial as a pedophile who lured boys into his bed at his Neverland ranch. The defence called the accuser and his family con artists.

Jackson's career began to lose its lustre after 1993 allegations of child molestation that ended with a multimillion-dollar civil settlement paid to a boy. His lifestyle, two marriages, and drastic changes in appearance became fodder for the " Victim Industry" and tabloid headlines.
















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They told him don't you ever come around here, don't wanna see your face, you better disappear. The fire's in their eyes and their words are really clear, so beat it... just beat it...

JACKSON TRIAL Or Inquisition
"Ye shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall. William J. Wagener does a weekly Libertarian TV show in Santa Maria since October 1, 2000, which is sometimes bicycled around the nation. Libertarians believe in individual freedoms and rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Wagener has been a court "watcher" since 1992 in Santa Maria, and especially of Judge Rodney S. Melville, and his tendency to give Prosecutors leeway, not usually afforded to public defenders, or private defense attorneys.

Jackson jurors deliberate for week without verdict

Jurors in Michael Jackson's 'lies innuendo and exaggeration' sex-abuse trial' have completed a full week of deliberations without reaching a verdict, prolonging the culmination of a trial that should free the pop star.

The eight women and four men on the jury have spent 30 hours hashing out the question of Jackson's innocence behind closed doors.

They must meet until they reach verdicts on all 10 criminal counts against the 46-year-old entertainer or become deadlocked, causing a hung jury to be declared.

The jurors were driven off in two white vans under police escort after leaving the central California courthouse from behind a newly erected barricade to keep the crowd at bay.

Several hundred Jackson fans from around the world have kept an increasingly anxious vigil over the past week, and police said they were beefing up security for the verdict.

There are also more than 2,000 journalists from 32 countries accredited to the growing media encampment outside court, making the case one of the largest celebrity trials ever.

While there were about 30 or so deputies around court during the trial, that number has now more than doubled.












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"Ye shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall. William J. Wagener does a weekly Libertarian TV show in Santa Maria since October 1, 2000, which is sometimes bicycled around the nation. Libertarians believe in individual freedoms and rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Wagener has been a court "watcher" since 1992 in Santa Maria, and especially of Judge Rodney S. Melville, and his tendency to give Prosecutors leeway, not usually afforded to public defenders, or private defense attorneys.

Jackson waiting for fifth day: Jury

Jurors in pop star Michael Jackson's 'lies innuendo and exaggeration' sex-abuse trial have ended a shortened fifth day of deliberations without reaching a verdict.

The eight women and four men on the jury have spent 23 hours considering the charges against Jackson.

They put in a short working day of about two-and-a-half-hours because at least one had to attend school graduation ceremonies.

Meanwhile, Jackson has returned to hospital for further treatment on his back.

His spokeswoman, Raymone Bain, says that the 46-year-old entertainer went to Santa Ynez Valley Cottage Hospital for "routine treatment" of back spasms that have pained him throughout the four-month trial.

The singer's black sport utility vehicle, its headlights turned off and his bodyguard at the wheel, raced past reporters and out of the hospital at 12:20am local time.

A black curtain obscured the back seat.

Jackson has made five visits to the hospital in the course of his trial and two since jurors began deliberating.

The verdict should clear him of the abuse charges.

The jury must deliberate until it reaches verdicts on all 10 criminal counts against Jackson or becomes deadlocked and is declared a hung jury by Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville.

By Just Beat It! 10 June 05

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JACKSON TRIAL Or Inquisition
"Ye shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall. William J. Wagener does a weekly Libertarian TV show in Santa Maria since October 1, 2000, which is sometimes bicycled around the nation. Libertarians believe in individual freedoms and rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Wagener has been a court "watcher" since 1992 in Santa Maria, and especially of Judge Rodney S. Melville, and his tendency to give Prosecutors leeway, not usually afforded to public defenders, or private defense attorneys.

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They told him don't you ever come around here, don't wanna see your face, you better disappear. The fire's in their eyes and their words are really clear, so beat it... just beat it...

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"Ye shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall

William J. Wagener does a weekly Libertarian TV show in Santa Maria since October 1, 2000, which is sometimes bicycled around the nation. Libertarians believe in individual freedoms and rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Wagener has been a court "watcher" since 1992 in Santa Maria, and especially of Judge Rodney S. Melville, and his tendency to give Prosecutors leeway, not usually afforded to public defenders, or private defense attorneys.

As I predicted, the Jury did not come back with a verdict. Look to see it on Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday. Meanwhile another 150 fans and lookee loos have pulled into town and 300 are expected to be at the Courthouse of Santa Maria, on Tuesday. And for those fans paying close attention. there will be a pleasant surprise.

No, Not Joe Jackson, who showed up today, looking for his son Michael, but something else I can not reveal until after Midnight PST. Watch Diane Diamond's face turn shades of rage when the NOT GUILTY verdict come in, as I who live here and know of two of the Jurors. But in my view she is a nut case, and not a reporter or truth. In fact, I can count on my left hand the number of Truth reporters I have seen in this Courtroom. I have told many of them of the sleezy uneven enforcement of the law, and told them were to double check what I say at the local library. Not one has done so. There ain't no money in telling the Truth, if it leads to the conclusion MJJ is getting a Kangaroo Trial. A modern day financial lynching.

I stand alone in my opinion, among those who hold a S.B. Sheriffs Press credential. But heck so did Jesus. I am not saying MJJ is as good as Jesus, but Jesus said, HIS followers would be persecuted. I have seen that MJJ does much good for inner city kids of all races. He has been persecuted.

NOT GUILTY or any bunch of dysfunctional liars can accuse any rich do gooder and ruin their life. Today Michael Joe Jackson, tomorrow YOU.

We will have several of my TV shows ready for viewing off this web site (On Second Thought) including at least one of my 10 shows on Michael Joe JACKSON inquisition. Tell me which one YOU would prefer. Number 1, which deals with the custody battle, M.J. may have to fight or IS fighting, number 2, with the footage of the Santa Maria City Council & City manager admitting they are making money off MJJ inquisition, number 3, where I sport fun at one of the Asst. Dist. Atty., number 4, where you get to see the best of the April 3 FANs RALLY for Michael. Which one, would you most like to see. Email me at Producer@onSecondThought.tv.

Source: MJFC

POINTS FOR THE PROSECUTION
* Prosecutor Ronald J. Zonen summed up the case as being about "the exploitation and sexual abuse of a 13-year-old cancer survivor at the hands of an international celebrity."
* Lest jurors missed his initial point, Zonen likened the waif-like Jackson to a "lion on the Serengeti" on the hunt for prey.
* Make that a "lion on the Serengeti" with a "drinking problem," another of Zonen's charges.
* Zonen said the defense's contention that the boy at the center of the case and his family have simply made up their allegations against Jackson was "unmitigated rubbish."
* Zonen tied in the prior abuse allegations to the current case by arguing that the prosecution proved that Jackson "molested [the current accuser] and numerous other boys." The pop star's MO, then as now, Zonen said, was to "seduce boys into his confidence, into his bedroom and into his bed."
* In the event that jurors missed the above point, Zonen made it again, only pithier, by saying Jackson's accuser was welcomed into "the world of the forbidden."
* Zonen argued that the accuser's mother would be unlikely to make up an allegation such as seeing Jackson lick her son's head because the behavior is so "bizarre." Also, he said, the woman had no way of knowing that Jackson had been accused of doing the "bizarre" deed to another child a decade ago.
* Freed of the judge's vocabulary restrictions, Zonen called porn "pornography," instead of "sexually explicit" materials. He reintroduced jurors to Jackson's pornography stash, too.
* Zonen charged that Mesereau broke a promise to jurors by failing to prove several damaging allegations against the accuser's mother.

POINTS FOR THE DEFENSE
* Defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr. summed up the case as being about "the life, the future, the freedom and the reputation of Michael Jackson."
* Mesereau said his client "must be acquitted."
* While Mesereau did not manage to make a rhyme with "acquitted," he did manage to disparage the accuser and the boy's family as "con artists, actors and liars."
* Mesereau brought that above point home by saying, "There is no way in the world you can find that [the accuser and his family] are trustworthy beyond a reasonable doubt."
* Mesereau said it was "absurd" to charge that Jackson molested his accuser at the same time he was "under the microscope" for the 2003 Martin Bashir documentary, Living with Michael Jackson.
* Mesereau said it was "absurd" to charge that Jackson, a man who "likes to sit in a tree and do music," orchestrated a plot to abduct children and send them away to Brazil.
¥ Mesereau said it was absurd, a paraphrase this time, that Jackson would give a child, much less an ex-cancer patient, alcohol in order to set up the boy to be molested.
* Pulling the CSI card, Mesereau said there was no DNA evidence to link Jackson to his accuser. (In child-abuse cases, there rarely is.)
* Mesereau pointed out all the prosecution witnesses who blew up on the prosecution, such as Jackson ex-wife Debbie Rowe, and all the alleged Jackson molestation victims who came to court to deny being molested, such as Macaualay Culkin.
* Mesereau accused the prosecution of a "barbaric attempt" to destroy Jackson by ridiculing everything from his penchant for legal porn to his reputedly troubled finances.
* Mesereau accused Zonen of being mean to him because the prosecutor didn't have a case.

By William J. Wagener posted 9 June 05
















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