Labor has said that the evidence against Mamdouh Habib is tainted
The fascist Federal Government has been exposed for the torture of Australian Mamdouh Habib and the US Government's allegations against him (if they were true) would have been made under duress.
Mr Habib insists he confessed to training some September 11 terrorists after being tortured. Ouch!
Fascist Foreign Minister Alexander Downer has conceded that innocent man Mamdouh Habib may have been physically abused in Egypt?
The Foreign Minister's admission came as senior government officials continued to maintain they had no evidence of maltreatment during Mr Habib's three years in US custody?
But the perpetrators of this brutal crime wouldn't concede to the crime, but they let it happen, and it was okay to watch it happen and perhaps to even interrogate Mr Habib themselves.
The War Criminal Downer also said it was possible evidence of torture would be found at the US's Guantanamo Bay facility in Cuba, where Mr Habib was held without charge for almost three years before his release last month.
"For all I know, he may have been badly treated in Egypt, but we don't know because the Egyptians have still not conceded to us that they held him,"?
A parliamentary committee heard almost $500,000 was spent on returning Mr Habib to Australia.
Secretary of the Attorney-General's Department, Robert Cornall, said to a Senate estimates committee hearing today the charter flight for Mr Habib had cost $US354,000 ($451,300).
Under questioning by Labor senators, he said the cost was shared equally between the US and Australian Governments.
Meanwhile Ch/7 Sunrise advocate this morning that a phone poll they had taken asking, "Do you think that under certain circumstances people should be tortured?".
'I think I love you' CH/7 and its viewers reckon 52% said yes. People should be tortured under certain circumstances and 48% said no they should not be tortured under any circumstances.
Meanwhile, the federal opposition Leader Kim Beazley (a well paid loser) chosen to lead the opposition by HoWARd's ABC and the Corporate media has been alleged to have narrowed the gap between the Labor Party and the Government by 10 percentage points since mid-January, an ACNielsen poll showed?
Another flawed plebiscite no doubt, the poll in today's Sydney Morning Herald, shows Labor under Mr Beazley enjoyed 48 per cent support on a two-party preferred vote, compared to the Coalition's 52 per cent.
But I notice strikingly that the same statistics 52% and 48% suggest the same group of people who think it's okay to torture a citizen.
Could this group of people represent human rights in Australia? One does wonder!
It is difficult to comprehend that Australia has gone that far back to the dark ages by lowering the standards of a human being. That means these people advocate that they themselves can be tortured?
Fascist Attorney-General Philip Ruddock does not know the reasons behind the US decision not to lay any charges but says American authorities had told Australian officials they did not have sufficient evidence?
"We were disappointed about that because they'd led us to believe they did," he said.
"They've told us they didn't have sufficient evidence to proceed with the prosecution.
Ruddock "I assume it relates to a range of potential issues that might be involved in that."
Ruddock says he can not exclude the possibility that one of those "issues" was the use of torture to gain Mr Habib's confessions.
So after Ruddock let them torture him he was disappointed that they did not charge Mr Habib?
You mean it was all for nothing?
Labor's Nicola Roxon suggests the evidence against Mr Habib was tainted.
"I think it defies belief that they haven't asked the US the reasons that they released Mr Habib without charge," she said.
"The evidence they had was tainted in some way and couldn't be used, for example it was obtained through torture."
ASIO and federal police officials will be quizzed today about whether any of their officers witnessed Mr Habib being tortured.
But according to the ABC Four Corners program last night there is no question that their officers were complicit in the torture and interrogation of many others.
In Other Developments:
Secrets and Lies by Reporter: Liz Jackson Broadcast: 14/02/2005
He lives quietly in Canberra's outer suburbs. He comes and goes a lot. When he is home he may be seen tending his roses in the front yard.
This unobtrusive, quietly spoken man has been privilege to some of the world's best-kept secrets for two decades. He knows from long personal experience how intelligence agencies and big defence bureaucracies operate.
Since the first Gulf War in 1991 his unique expertise on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction has been sought by the CIA, Canberra and the UN.
Now he's decided to talk to Four Corners...
"You're imbued with this idea of keeping secrets... you're not allowed to talk about who you are - even who you work for... What we're saying now will come as a surprise - even to some of my friends," he says.
"I think the world should know some of the truths, which at times, I'd have liked the world to have known - but I couldn't say anything."
Via interview and contemporaneous diary notes, the insider paints a disturbing picture of the backroom political forces at play in the run-up to the Iraq War and in its aftermath, as the coalition conducted its fruitless search for Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.
He details to Four Corners:
* how he quit in disgust after the CIA censored a crucial WMD report, leading to deletion of central facts and conclusions. "We left the impression that maybe there were, was WMD out there...I thought it was dishonest," he says;
* his personal observations of the present head of Britain's MI6, who also played a key role in the David Kelly affair, applying pressure to "sex up" the same report;
* his pre-war advice to the Australian and US governments that Iraq's weapons did not threaten either country;
* how he reported to Australian authorities his suspicions about systemic abuse of prisoners in Iraq by coalition forces, before the Abu Ghraib scandal broke, and how his concerns were ignored;
* his and other Australians' roles in interrogating "high value" Iraqi prisoners - despite Canberra's denials of Australia's involvement in interrogations. "Someone was brought to me in an orange jumpsuit with a guard with a gun standing behind him...of course I didn't pull any fingernails out... but I think it's misleading to say no Australians were involved. I was involved."
Australia: a presumption of guilt...... KAREN PERCY: Two of Australia's leading barristers have seized on the return of Guantanamo Bay detainee, Mamdouh Habib, to launch an unprecedented attack on the Federal Attorney General, Philip Ruddock.
Australian Govt Guilty of Crimes: Community Australia: The community says federal fascists who allowed the torture of its citizenry including Mamdouh Habib may be arrested when the United Nations War Crimes Tribunal address the War Crimes Indictment set out by the community.
What they did to Habib Mamdouh Habib was the victim of atrocities fit for a concentration camp, including being tied to the ground while a prostitute menstruated on him, his lawyer said yesterday.
US 'landlord' slams! Guantanamo 'law violations' Cuba has demanded that the United States cease its "criminal conduct" in abusing prisoners held at the base it illegally occupies on Cuba's south-eastern tip, saying procedures at Guantanamo violate international law.
FBI emails reveal Guantanamo abuse In memos over a two year period FBI agents said they witnessed the use of torture techniques, which included the use of dogs, prisoners being shackled to the floor in foetal positions for up to 24 hours, left without food and water, left to defecate upon themselves.
Australia Sells Its Citizens Short Australian citizens, Mamdouth Habib and David Hicks have been illegally incarcerated in the Guantanamo Bay facility established by the US military as part of the War on Terror.
Downer won't press US for 'torture' report? The Australian Government says it has tried and failed so far to get a copy of a report by the International Red Cross which claims psychological and physical coercion of detainees at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba?
Lawyers hail 'unlawful' ruling in Guantanamo trial Human rights groups and lawyers for Guantanamo detainees have welcomed a US federal judge's ruling which halted as unlawful the military tribunal trial of a Guantanamo prisoner accused of being Osama bin Laden's bodyguard and driver.
Torture, the British way Great to be British, isn't it? Time was, we were really uptight, but now we can talk about anything - sex, religion, politics. No matter how personal and complex the subject, we'll discuss it with Richard and Judy, or slap our private Polaroids of it on our websites. Which leaves me puzzled about our silence, even shyness, over this whole torture thing.
Pentagon dumps Guantanamo tribunal officers The Pentagon has dumped three members of a military tribunal that will hear the trials of Guantanamo prisoners, including Australian David Hicks, but kept the presiding officer despite challenges to his impartiality.
Lawyers complain about Guantanamo trials US: Lawyers for 63 detainees at the US detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba have complained before a US federal court at the slow pace their cases are being handled by authorities.
Judge orders US to release Guantanamo records The United States Government must release documents within 30 days relating to the treatment of prisoners held at American overseas detention centres, including Guantanamo Bay and Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, a US federal judge ordered.
Bush team 'knew of abuse' at Guantanamo Evidence of prisoner abuse and possible war crimes at Guantanamo Bay reached the highest levels of the Bush administration as early as autumn 2002, but Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, chose to do nothing about it, according to a new investigation.
Abu Ghraib inquiry slams Aust Government A US inquiry into the Iraqi prison abuse scandal has been highly critical of Australian, Major George O'Kane, for glossing over early warnings about the treatment of detainees.
Mamdouh Habib: Taunted and Tortured! Habib came to ASIO's notice when he fell out with the ADF obviously someone had it in for Mamdouh and the ADF tipped off ASIO and the AFP to taunt him. By the sounds of it he was declared a wog. That's Aussie slang for get the bastard he's not one of ours and we can discriminate against him he is an easy target. Aussie race hate!
Habib to face US military trial The United States Government has given the go-ahead for the Australian Guantanamo Bay inmate, Mamdouh Habib, to go to trial for being innocent. Mr Habib could now be granted access to a military and civilian legal team.
US tortured Habib in Egypt: report Australian terror suspect Mamdoub Habib was allegedly tortured in Egypt before being sent to Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, according to the Pakistani Government.
There is no justification for torture In the weeks since the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison were revealed, evidence continues to seep out of similar mistreatment of prisoners in other US military detention centers in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guantanamo Bay.
US lawyers demand access to Habib Lawyers for Guantanamo Bay detainees, including Mamdouh Habib, have written to United States Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld demanding access to the men.
Guantanamo prisoners may be moved to US soil The US authorities may move hundreds of prisoners from their controversial Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba to the United States following new Supreme Court rulings, the Los Angeles Times has reported.
Howard rejects spy agency overhaul Prime Minister John Howard has played down the need for a major overhaul of Australia's spy agencies as a result of an inquiry by former intelligence officer Phillip Flood.
Hicks and Habib in the Melting Pot Australia: The United States has brought three criminal charges against Australian David Hicks, accusing him of conspiracy to commit war crimes, attempted murder and aiding the enemy, the Pentagon has said.
Rumsfeld had approved abuse US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorised hoods, the stripping of prisoners and the use of dogs to terrify inmates at Guantanamo Bay almost two years ago, documents released yesterday revealed.
Prisoner's identity concealed to prevent Red Cross access US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, acting at the request of the CIA, ordered that a suspected Iraqi insurgent leader be detained off the books to conceal his identity from the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), the Pentagon has confirmed.
US has secret prisons: rights group The United States is holding terrorism suspects in more than two dozen detention centres worldwide, about half of which operate in total secrecy, according to a new human rights report.
This won't hurt much For some time now, I've been trying to find out where my son goes after choir practice. He simply refuses to tell me. He says it's no business of mine where he goes after choir practice and it's a free country.
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