Saturday, September 10, 2005

Review of proposed terrorism laws

The proposed laws are still at the publicity stage, so there are no details. However, this is what has been released so far.

Control orders would allow the police to go before a closed court and ask for restrictions to be placed on someone who poses a terrorist risk.

The restrictions can limit whom they can talk to, where they can go.

They may also require the person to wear a tracking device such as a electronic foot bracelet, or report regularly to a certain place as if they were on bail. These restrictions can last for up to 12 months.

Preventative detention powers would allow people to be detained without charge for up to 14 days. This violates the Australian Constitution so the Federal Government has to ask the States to help them with this part of the law.

This means that if there was suspicion that a terrorist attack would occur, [false flag operation] hundreds of people could be detained on very thin grounds. They would not be able to go to work, or to communicate with anybody, if the existing laws are any guide.

Furthermore, the current ASIO powers would be toughened. Search warrants would be valid for 3 months instead of only 28 days.

Instead of having to get a warrant to gain access to your mail every 3 months, they would only need to do it every 6 months. This means that there is less oversight over these processes, and will open the door for police abuse.

This is important as any student of Australian history knows, police have not always been free from abuse in Australia.

Public statements come under restriction, where it would be a criminal offence for someone to incite violence against the community in support of Australia's enemies [Coalition of the Killing.] So it would be a crime to say 'Iraqis should resist the occupation by the US, UK and Australia.' The maximum penalty that is being proposed for that offence is 7 years imprisonment.

Organisations that 'advocate terrorism' would also be made illegal. The problem with this is that the offence of advocating terrorism is very broad.

For example, Hizb-ut-Tahrir (HT) has consistently denied that it supports terrorism, but because it says Palestinians have the right to attack Israeli targets, this could be interpreted as advocating terrorism.

If HT were to be listed as a terrorist organisation, all the members of HT could go to prison for 10 years, and under current laws it would be an offence to associate with any of its directors, promoters or members.

The new laws would extend police powers to stop, question and search members of the public.

These would give the police the ability to stop anyone in the street, search them (possibly even including strip searches) and ask them questions when police suspect a person might be about to commit a terrorist offence. More oppressive laws are already in place in some states, such as the NSW Terrorism (Police Powers) Act 2002.

A copy of the NSW Terrorism (Police Powers) Act 2002 is at

This article is a shameless copy (with changes to the original article).

The original can be found at


By worried 10 September 05

Ed: As has been reported this tactic by Howard is also to scare people. Frighten and terrorise the community. The news had to be alarming, so much so, that most people will be more worried about defending their own skin than confronting the governments failures on Telstra etc.

We should be disciplining Howard for his lies and deceit in the Telstra scandal yet we've had to become even more alarmed about our civil liberties in general.

The Telstra scandal should remove Howard from office post haste as a liar and a fraud to the Australian people.

Howard is the scum of the earth and so is his party; he's deceived this country as a leader so many times.

His own medical crony Tony Abbott has laughed and scoffed at the demise and attempted suicide of one of his own party members John Brogden.

Phillip Ruddock is a bad dog who is promoting terrorism and removing civil liberties all at the same time. There have been many instances that report this. Propaganda leaked to pro government media giants. Raids without evidence of any kind. Fishing expeditions to reap ones personal material that would give grounds for further investigation regardless of who belonged to the material, sought by an ASIO expedition into the privacy of any home.

How many alleged terrorists still remain in custody? How long have they been there? How many alleged terrorist remain in the community on bail? How long have they had to endure this? Now most likely with bracelets on so they've no privacy.

Amanda Vanstone said, "I thought of it"

What, to take down the barbed wire to give her concentration camps a better look. I'm sad to inform her that that is government policy.

Yes my friends these are dog people running the country

And if you think that once the country has got sick of the war criminal Howard then it's time for Pastor Peter Costello then think again. Because while all this is going on he's nodding his head because he wants the top job.

Howard's latest charges:

A) Deceiving and defrauding the community about the value of Telstra.

B) Causing serious alarm and affront to the whole community by suggesting to legislate unconstitutional laws in an attempt to cover-up his misdeeds in deceiving and defrauding the Australian people.

John Howard how do you plead?

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