Tuesday, July 26, 2005

Carr gets advice on public transport bag searches

Extra, extra read all about it!

The New South Wales premier says he is prepared to consider changing the law to allow random searches of commuter's bags on the public transport system.

bob carr says he has sought advice from counter-terrorism police and public transport agencies.

But he needn't have bothered because the cause of the terror is more likely than not, 'Australia's deadly foreign policy', in a war-zone.

At the moment, searches can be conducted if police have a reasonable suspicion that a person poses a threat.

But carr says under the changes he is seeking advice on, the law would allow random searches of people's bags.

But that doesn't work after the bombs have exploded, in a war-zone.

He has acknowledged concern about breaching civil liberties, but says the threat is real, and cannot be dismissed.

Because he knows that civil liberties don't work, in a war-zone.

"I would think that people would agree with the proposition that your civil liberty not to have your bag searched is outweighed by my right not to be blown up," carr said.

"I think that's a reasonable proposition."

True! Just ask any Iraqi or Afghan citizen, in a war-zone!

State Slayer john brogden says sniffer dogs should be used to conduct random bag checks.

But in a war-zone all they'll be finding is random body parts.

"These dogs are... extremely highly trained and extremely professionally trained to get an outcome, and that is that they can sniff what they are looking for," he said.

Yeah, be pretty good with dead body parts, in a war-zone?

"In this case, they'd be able to find a bomb and sniff it amongst a large crowd and be able, very effectively, to weed out the person who's carrying a bomb."

But that doesn't work after the bombs go off, and all they'll be weeding out is body parts, in a war-zone.

The Slayer's police spokesman, mike gallacher, another (well paid loser) says using dogs may be more effective.

"You think about it, you've got a packed commuter train - how effective will it be?" he said.

"Half a dozen police boarding the train, starting to search bags, getting through very, very slowly.

"Whereas a dog can quietly move through the system. Not only does it smell bags but it can smell people as well, and they don't have to be jumping all over you like the pet in the back yard.

"They do it very, very discreetly and I think the public would prefer to see that option."

Really? Well I'll never agree to any of it. Who owns the problem? The war criminal HoWARd owns the problem yet he wants the community to endure it, for as long as someone wants him to and he hasn't even owned up to his shoot to kill policy yet!

In a blown up packed commuter train it's easy to smell blood and body parts as well? And it wouldn't matter how discrete you were to the dead all you'll need is body bags not sniffer dogs.

Meanwhile carr says he will hold talks with Islamic leaders later this week on the role they must play in identifying extremists among them.

But I can name a few that are 'not' among them, like, john hoWARd and his war criminal mates, that would be a good place to start weeding them out.

carr says the state's Muslim community should not be judged by the comments of extremists he calls "a telephone box minority".

Is that like a parliament house minority, in a war-zone?

He angered some Muslim leaders with comments in London last week that they should help police to weed out extremists among them.

carr says while the community should not be held responsible for extremists, they have an important role to play.

Yeah just like everyone else and that is: ensuring opposition to pre-emptive, illegal and degrading wars and holding all war criminals accountable for their war crimes against humanity that is, unless you want to continue to give up more of what's left of your civil liberties and live in a war-zone.

By No More War and More Civil Liberties 26 July 05


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