Peter Faris, QC: " It would be acceptable to use torture in criminal investigations."Australia: A former chairman of the National Crime Authority has spoken out in favour of torture for John HoWARd and the Neo-Cons no doubt, saying it should be used against terrorists and in domestic criminal situations but not against QC's?
Peter Faris, QC, today 'welcomed' the debate sparked last week by the head of Deakin University's law school, Mirko Bagaric, who said torture was acceptable in some circumstances?
The fish always rots at the head
The head of Deakin University's Law School, Professor Mirko Bagaric, and fellow Deakin lecturer Julie Clarke have written an article supporting their view. In the article, they argue that when many lives are in danger, "all forms of harm" may be inflicted on the suspect, even if this resulted in "annihilation".
Bagaric, who said torture, was acceptable in some circumstances?
The article - Not Enough Official Torture in the World? The Circumstances in which Torture is Morally Justifiable - is soon to be published in the University of San Francisco Law Review.
But the Australian Government has been caught with its pants down over many human rights abuses including torture and now seeks to justify the official truth!
Shame HoWARd Shame! What a shame!
Who would welcome this debate? Non other than the war criminal HoWARd himself and his mates the 'Mean Men in Black'.
Faris chaired the national crime body from 1989-1990, has acted as a senior prosecutor and has represented high-profile clients, but that doesn't give him the right to welcome a discussion about torture in our community because it suits some group of religious right wing fanatics.
It just shows you some incite in the warped minds of some of these people who probably regard themselves as law abiding citizens but have really got no idea where to draw the line on the punishment system. Because they're deeply evil inside, have no limits or standards when it comes to others and no empathy for the treatment of prisoners, because they see themselves as better than everyone else.
They remind me of drug addicts who've become bored in life and want to find new parameters to make life more exiting but don't consider what it would be like if they were to be tortured.
The question is how much was he paid to say it? Or is this person just the vindictive criminal he always was?
Having legal knowledge and understanding I'd say his motive is more likely cunning and manipulative!
Faris said it would be acceptable to use torture in criminal investigations.
"A psychopathic murderer has buried a teenage girl alive and he is captured by the police," an example on Mr Faris's blog website says.
"He refuses to say where she is. He taunts the police with his knowledge. Torture is acceptable to find the girl and to save her life."
Mr Faris said his example was taken from the film Dirty Harry.
And the answer to that one is he watches too much television and torture won't reveal the truth but any answer as long as it relieves the pain.
In the case of terrorism, Mr Faris says: "A militant Islamic group in Iraq is holding a hostage in an unknown location and is threatening to kill the hostage.
"A member of that group is captured, but refuses to disclose the whereabouts of the hostage and the rest of the group. Torture is acceptable."
Ouch!
He said there were no guarantees that torture would work? - "if you don't get the information, you don't get the information"?
But shame about the pain that wasn't inflicted onto him?
However, "to pull out a fingernail of a terrorist in order to save a couple of million lives" was morally right, he said.
As above! Ouch!
"I'm not saying 'let's legislate immediately'," Mr Faris said.
He's saying lets cover-up for the HoWARd Government!
"What I'm trying to establish is that this is a legitimate issue to be on the table for debate ... but people start saying you're a Nazi because you want to debate it."
I'd say he needs mental treatment either that or he gets paid too much and offered too much prestige by a bunch of stooges who still want HoWARd to pat himself on the back for his war crimes against humanity.
In short he wants to make torture right. Right?
Far from and Ideal situation
Mr Faris said legislating for torture was not an ideal situation.
"It's certainly not a society we want, the problem is these problems are thrust upon us by war ... they may be thrust upon us by a psychotic individual." Like you!
Who started the war? THE COALITION OF THE KILLING!
On his website, Mr Faris says, "we are at war with terror and militant Islam in the Middle East. We are at war with Islamic terror in our homeland.
"From time to time, circumstances will occur where it is necessary to use physical force on a captured person to obtain critical information."
BUT WE ARE AT WAR WITH IMPERIALISM AND OILS AIN'T OILS!
United Nations Standard Minimum Rules for the Torture of Prisoners?
United Nations Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners? Or Standard guidelines for corrections in Australia?
Mr Faris said standards of acceptable torture would have to be set if it were to be used. "Some sort of standard would have to be developed for the reasonable application of pain," he said.
Experiment on Mr Faris?
The National Crime Authority was replaced by the Australian Crime Commission in 2003.
Meanwhile, Professor Bagaric last week attracted an avalanche of criticism, after revelations of his support for torture.
Torture survivor groups, civil libertarians and some of Professor Bagaric's university colleagues reacted with dismay at news of a paper co-authored by him, which would soon be published in the United States.
The paper, also written by Deakin law lecturer Julie Clarke, argues the case for the torture of suspects - even to the point of death - in a bid to obtain information.
By Torture Never Acceptable 25 May 05
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